ES - Officer's banners

[Rayburn, Timothy]

There are no SCA standard arms for the chamberlain.  The East and Middle
Kingdoms both use registered arms as follows :

East : (Fieldless) A cushion purpure.
(A purple cushion, no field).

Middle : Azure, a pale checky gules and argent, overall two keys in saltire,
wards to chief Or.
(Blue field, vertical bar checky of red and white, and two keys with wards
to the top of the field gold.)

Of course, I like the colors better for the historical arms of the
Arch-chamberlain of the Holy Roman Empire which are either :

Azure, a sceptre Or.
(Blue field, gold sceptre)

OR...

Azure, two sceptres in saltire Or.
(Blue field, crossed sceptres gold.)

I personally think that the single sceptre version is very classy, and
should be used since we don't have official arms for the chamberlain in this
kingdom.  Their period! For a chamberlain! ;-)

Timothy


-----Original Message-----
From:	Estella Flather [SMTP:eflather at flash.net]
Sent:	Tuesday, April 18, 2000 10:40 AM
To:	elfsea at ansteorra.org
Subject:	Re: ES - Officer's banners

The office of Chamberlain is not an official one, so I don't believe it
would have a registered device. I think it should be a big pile of s*** oh.
pardon me, stuff.
-HE Stella

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> From: Damon Huse <alric at texas.net>
> To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: ES - Officer's banners
> Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 5:53 PM
> 
> a couple of newsletter I get have devices with the officers names but I
> haven't seen one for the chamberlain except for a key but we use that
> for the hospitalers office
> 
> 	Phelippe
> 
> "Wainwright-Sims, Jewell" wrote:
> > 
> > Our website does not have an insignia for 3 offices, Chamberlain,
Historian
> > and Minister of Children.  Are these available anywhere else?  Ameline,
you
> > mentioned checking on the new design with Countess Annora; have you had
a
> > chance to do so?  Please help!
> > 
> > Julianna
> >
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