ES - Heraldic question

Sue Dittrich dittrich at flash.net
Wed Dec 13 14:38:53 PST 2000


Well, we (Borek and I) discovered that we can't use Or because of the fleur
de lys.  Something about the Royal House of France....  <grin>  Maybe we
could add a bordure....  That goes around the outside of the orle, right?
('Scuse my ignorance)

Genevieve

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Threlkeld <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
To: elfsea at ansteorra.org <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: ES - Heraldic question


>The easiest change might be to change all the argent tinctures to
>Or. This would give two CDs from the original conflict. However, I
>have not yet conflict checked the resulting arms. I will try to do
>so by tonight. Would this combination be acceptable to you?
>
>Caelin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org [mailto:owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org]On
>> Behalf Of Mary Bader
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:28 AM
>> To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
>> Subject: Re: ES - Heraldic question
>>
>>
>> You could change the color of the fleurs de lys, the color of the
>> background, the decrescent to another charge, or any number of
>> other alterations.  Diana was a well-loved queen of Caid, who has
>> since passed away.  You will not be able to get her permission to
>> use a similar device, I am afraid.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Mary Taran
>>
>> >From: "Sue Dittrich" <dittrich at flash.net>
>> >To: <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
>> >Subject: Re: ES - Heraldic question
>> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:39:10 -0600
>> >Reply-To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
>> >
>> >Here's the info from the LoAR report.
>> >
>> >Geneviève del Gamba. Device. Azure, a decrescent within an orle
>> of fleurs-de-lys argent.
>> >
>> >     Conflict with Diana de Savigny, Azure, a decrescent within
>> seven trees in orle argent. There is only a single
>> >     CD for the change in type of the secondary charges.
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
>> >Genevieve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >    What is the blazon of the original device (or describe it in
>> English) and with whom did it conflict?
>> >    Caelin
>> >        -----Original Message-----
>> >        From: owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org
>[mailto:owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of Sue Dittrich
>>        Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:58 PM
>>        To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
>>        Subject: ES - Heraldic question
>>
>>
>>        I have a heraldic question.  I found out that my device was
returned due to a conflict with another device (though my name passed with
correction...now Genevieve del Gamba) and I would like to know what to do
now.  Any help would be great!  Thanks!
>>
>>        In Service,
>>
>>        Genevieve del Gamba
>>
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