ES - Heraldic question

[Richard Threlkeld]

Yes, but it is used far more often in the SCA than it was in period.
Which are the most important elements to you - the decrescent, the 
orle layout, or the fleur de leys? 

Caelin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org [mailto:owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org]On
> Behalf Of Sue Dittrich
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 4:39 PM
> To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: ES - Heraldic question
> 
> 
> Well, we (Borek and I) discovered that we can't use Or because of 
> the fleur
> de lys.  Something about the Royal House of France....  <grin>  Maybe we
> could add a bordure....  That goes around the outside of the orle, right?
> ('Scuse my ignorance)
> 
> Genevieve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Threlkeld <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
> To: elfsea at ansteorra.org <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
> Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 1:48 PM
> Subject: RE: ES - Heraldic question
> 
> 
> >The easiest change might be to change all the argent tinctures to
> >Or. This would give two CDs from the original conflict. However, I
> >have not yet conflict checked the resulting arms. I will try to do
> >so by tonight. Would this combination be acceptable to you?
> >
> >Caelin
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org [mailto:owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org]On
> >> Behalf Of Mary Bader
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:28 AM
> >> To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> >> Subject: Re: ES - Heraldic question
> >>
> >>
> >> You could change the color of the fleurs de lys, the color of the
> >> background, the decrescent to another charge, or any number of
> >> other alterations.  Diana was a well-loved queen of Caid, who has
> >> since passed away.  You will not be able to get her permission to
> >> use a similar device, I am afraid.
> >>
> >> Good luck.
> >>
> >> Mary Taran
> >>
> >> >From: "Sue Dittrich" <dittrich at flash.net>
> >> >To: <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: ES - Heraldic question
> >> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:39:10 -0600
> >> >Reply-To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> >> >
> >> >Here's the info from the LoAR report.
> >> >
> >> >Geneviève del Gamba. Device. Azure, a decrescent within an orle
> >> of fleurs-de-lys argent.
> >> >
> >> >     Conflict with Diana de Savigny, Azure, a decrescent within
> >> seven trees in orle argent. There is only a single
> >> >     CD for the change in type of the secondary charges.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >Genevieve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >    What is the blazon of the original device (or describe it in
> >> English) and with whom did it conflict?
> >> >    Caelin
> >> >        -----Original Message-----
> >> >        From: owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org
> >[mailto:owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of Sue Dittrich
> >>        Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:58 PM
> >>        To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> >>        Subject: ES - Heraldic question
> >>
> >>
> >>        I have a heraldic question.  I found out that my device was
> returned due to a conflict with another device (though my name passed with
> correction...now Genevieve del Gamba) and I would like to know what to do
> now.  Any help would be great!  Thanks!
> >>
> >>        In Service,
> >>
> >>        Genevieve del Gamba
> >>
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> >
> >
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