ES - mistake in bardic charter
Lady Simone
margiejr at sprintmail.com
Sun Jan 23 01:17:34 PST 2000
Your Grace.
I have re examined the Charter I sent out compared to the Hard copy given.
Yes there was a TYPO. It was human error for that I appologize to all and
yourself.. I do wish you would have contacted me in private first. that I
could have had the opertunity to Publicly admit my error before being
flailed for it public. I thought you knew me better. After Looking at the
Hard Copy Presented to me the only error is in section III 1.
I Posted with the error
1. The Bardic College has a policy of non-interference with local
title or non-title competitions. The college will not offer aid to anyone
who is having bardic competitions
The Hard Copy reads
1. The Bardic College has a policy of non-interference with local
title or non-title competitions. The college will offer aid to anyone
who is having bardic competitions
I will take responcibility for this error. in your post you Quote the
charter I put out and one from your computer in MIME format. out side of
the error noted above. the MIME format does not match the hard copy that was
given me. I do wish you would have contacted me privatly so I could have
brought the hard copy I was given to you.. The only variation Between the
hard copy I was given and what I Posted was one word "not" not a comlete
rewright as you have indicated.
Simone
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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 4:54 PM
Subject: [bards] mistake in bardic charter
> Lady Simone
> I caught a big typo in charter. The College is suppose to Offer aid to
> bardic competition. I hope we can change that . I noticed that your
> Charter is different from the one I put out. This is a little confusing.
> If we are going to make such a major change I think we need get opinions
> from the community before changing the Charter.
Willow it was a mistake on I am willing to correct it was not an attempt to
change the charter
>
> Your Charter states that is the same one that was put out last reign but
> it is not the charter which was put out. This is misleading. We need
> communication not razzle dazzle politics.
Willow when Have you ever known me to "razzel dazzel politics"
There is a lot of difference
> from encouraging bardic competitons and not offering any kind of aid to
> people who were having bardic competitions . The one thing I got from the
> bards was they were interested in being involved in competitions. They
> did want the college of offer aid to groups so the competition would
> improve. They understood that we could not stop or interfere but we could
> help. Also it was stated by several people that we needed to clearly
> state we had no control over the use of the arms of a group. If a group
> allowed the title bard to have the ensign on their it was alright but the
> college could not give that privilege.
>
> As premier bard I talked to a lot of people and the majority of the bards
> were worried about competitions. I did not put that section in based on
> my own opinion. I do not believe it should be changed on a single
> opinion. If this a sore point then we should debate it some more. There
> is room for compromise between the two stands. But if this charter is to
> supersede the earlier one then please take my name off. I do not support
> the stand of "NO AID". THIS WAS NOT THE CHARTER I PUT MY NAME ON!!
As I stated earlier this was human error for that I appologize, I attempted
to type in the hard copy as given. I made a mistake. One I did not catch
durring the proof reading before it was sent.
>
>
>
>
> Simone's charter
> Competitions
> 1. The Bardic College has a policy of non-interference with local
> title or non-title competitions. The college will not offer aid to anyone
> who is having bardic competitions.
>
>
> Section from the charter that was " placed before the Bards of Ansteorra
> By the Premier Bard, Willow De Wisp, Two Times and Voted to the Positive
> at the Coronation of their Royal Majesties Daffyd Whittaker and Octavia
> de Verdon Becomes the official charter of the Ansteorra College of Bards
> as of December 11 AS XXXIV."
>
> (this is not in the one I sent out to the list as final it looks like
part of the draft.?) III.
Competitions
>
> 1. It is choice of each group as to whether or not they have a title
> bard competition. The college will offer aid to local groups seeking to
> have a title bard or any other kind of competitions. It is encouraged
> that all local groups have a title bard. Selection of a title bard is
> left to the discretion of the individual group,according to their
> traditions and wishes. Prizes and the Symbols of Office are the
> discretion of the Group not the College. The Kingdom's Premier Bard is to
> be chosen annually, by the traditions of the college.
>
>
> Simone's charter in total.
> Please excuse multiple posts of this letter It has been sent out to reach
> the majority of the kingdom that is on line.
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am Lady Simone Maurian Ui'Dunlainghe The Information Coordinator for
> the Bardic College of Ansteorra. for the last year you the populace and
> the bards of Ansteorra have been kind and gracious. You have provided
> your insight and oppinions on several Drafts of a new Proposed Charter
> for the Kingdom Bardic College. At this Past Corenation I was Presented
> with a copy of the Aproved Charter By the Premier Bard of Ansteorra to be
> Posted unto the Populace. I would Like to Thank everyone who Provided
> comentary on the perivious drafts of the charter. If any Individual
> would like a personal copy of the charter Please feel free to Contact me.
> I can Provide you with a hard copy or electronic copy of the charter.
> Pleas direct comments to Myself or Other College officers not to the
> list.
>
> Bardic College Officers are:
>
> Primier Bard of Ansteorra
> Master Ulf Gunnerson
> ulfie at usa.net
>
> Bardic College Information Coordinator:
> Lady Simone Maurion Ui'Dunlainghe
> margiejr at sprintmail.com
> 3317 Littlejohn Ave.
> Fort Worth Texas 76105
> (817) 536-6629
>
> Bardic College Newsletter Editor
> HL Robert Fitzmorgan
> Fitzmorgan at cs.com
>
> Bardic College Education and Performance Officer
> Duchess Willow de Wisp
> jonwillowpel at juno.com
>
>
> In Service
> Lady Simone Maurian Ui'Dunlainghe
> Information Coordinator; Bardic College of Ansteorra
> margiejr at sprintmail.com
>
>
>
> Charter for the Bardic College of Ansteorra
>
>
> The term "Bard" in this document is a general term used to refer to all
> musicians, poets, storytellers, skalds, actors, and other performing
> artists.
>
>
>
> The Bardic College is the fellowship of bards. The Bardic College exist
> to promote the bardic arts in the kingdom of Ansteorra. To be an
> educational resource and supportive organization for bards and those
> wishing to be bards. To maintain the bardic history, and bardic
> traditions of the Kingdom of Ansteorra. To encourage Bardic styles
> consistent with the historical era of the Society.
>
> 1. The primary purpose of the Bardic College is to strengthen the
> Bardic Arts through the sharing of information, ideas, and techniques in
> formal and informal gatherings.
>
> 2. Membership in the Bardic Collage is open to anyone saying that
> he or she is a bard. As it has been in the past in this kingdom any
> person wishing to be a
> "Bard" in the Kingdom of Ansteorra has only to claim such. Membership in
> the college can only canceled by the individual bard
>
> 3. Individual bards are autonomous except in matter concerning all
> Bards. Each Bard is an individual with their own style and personality;
> hence the collage does not mandate the type of Bard craft an individual
> bard must pursue.
>
> 4. No single bard can speak for the bardic College.
>
> 5. The Bardic Collage is to remain non-political. Those who hold
> offices are but trusted servants they do not govern. They are to work
> for the support of the Bardic Arts. Final authority for the collage
> comes from the Bards of Ansteorra a whole. Any changes in the Charter or
> policy statements will be made only after sincere effort to communicate
> with as many bards as possible and reasonable time given for comments.
> The Primer Bard will communicate with the officers of the College, and as
> many of the past premier bards as possible before taking any major
> action. Premier Bards may set reasonable goals and projects for their
> tenure after communicating with the College officers.
>
> 6. Bards earn their keep by patronage; hence, a bard may be hired by
> anyone choosing to hire a Bard. The College dose not interfere or
> regulate.
>
>
>
> II Officers of the Bardic College
>
>
> The Officers of the Bardic College are the Premier Bard of Ansteorra,
> College information Coordinator, Newsletter Editor, and Education and
> Performance Opportunity Officer. Te list is not all Inclusive the Premier
> Bard may appoint deputies to handle tasks during his/her tenure. Bellow
> is a brief explanations of duties.
>
> 1. Premier Bard of Ansteorra is the executive head of the college,
> and is also responsible for promoting the bardic arts in the Kingdom of
> Ansteorra, to be an example of bardic excellence, to serve the Crown as
> Kingdom Bard, To communicate and function as deputy to the Kingdoms Arts
> and Science Officer, and to arrange/facilitating the competition to
> choose his or her successor in/or about November. The Premier Bard Of
> Ansteorra is chosen annually, by the customs and traditions of the Bardic
> Collage. It is the duty of the Premier Bard to arrange the competition
> for his successor as close to a year as possible. Format of Completion to
> be chosen by the out going Premier Bard. The Competition is open to all
> bards of the kingdom. Working with the College officers the Premier Bard
> will set reasonable goals and Projects for his tenure. Past Premier Bards
> will act as advisors to present Premier Bards.
>
> 2. College information Coordinator, Coordinates and Maintains Bardic
> Information and contacts in a physical and electronic storage.
> Facilitates Quarterly meeting of the College. Distributes Briefings of
> those gatherings to the Kingdom Officers and Populace. Serves as the
> focal point for the Kingdoms Bardic Network. It is recommended that the
> Coordinator appoint 5 deputies one from each region to assist with the
> office. Term of office 2 years.
>
> 3. Newsletter editor is responsible for publishing the newsletter of
> the bardic college. It is recommended that this office also have
> deputies Term of Office 2 years
>
> 4. Education and Performance Opportunity Officer is responsible for
> promoting
> research and Educational material on the bardic arts and in arranging
> performance venues. It is recommended that this office have deputies e
> from each region, to assist in promoting research, education and
> performance opportunities related to the Bardic Arts.
>
> 5. When a office becomes vacant the Preimer will announce bids and
> after a reasonable time appoints a replacement.
>
>
>
> III. Competitions
>
>
> 1. The Bardic College has a policy of non-interference with local
> title or non-title competitions. The college will not offer aid to anyone
> who is having bardic competitions.
>
> 2. As any group, guild, or household can hold bardic competitions
> the Primer bard may hold special competitions during his tenure
>
>
>
> IV. Gatherings
>
>
> Gatherings are organized activities for bards that can range from Bardic
> Circles, guild meetings, Walk about's to Work weekends. To encourage the
> bardic arts, and to create environment of cooperation among the bards.
> We to encourage groups to have some type of bardic outlet for the bards
> in their group.
>
> 1. Bardic Circles are non-competition activities at events were
> bards may perform for all those who wish to listen and participate.
> These are wonderful places for bards and the audience to give Largess to
> bards that touch their hearts.
>
> 2. Walk about's are performing situations where the performers set
> up stations and the populace travels t the stations. Fire Walks are were
> the bards travel to individual camp fires.
>
> 3. Bardic Guilds or gatherings are done at the group level to
> encourage support amongst the bards. Sharing of knowledge and skill, a
> place to practice and share new material. The structure of these meetings
> is left to the discretion of the group. They can be formal practice
> sessions to mini revels.
>
> 4. Bardic Work weekends are meetings and work groups sponsored by
> the college.
>
>
>
> V. Symbols of a bard
>
>
> The bardic Sash has been a long time standing representation of the
> bards in this kingdom and shall remain the custom. Bards may decorate
> their sashes according to custom or however they please. Please remember
> that heraldic designs belong to the group or individual that registered
> them and cannot be displayed except with permission of the owner.
>
>
>
> The sash it self is Sky Blue trimmed at the ends with Gold fringe.
>
> Following are the Customary Symbols
>
>
>
> Primer Bard A wide gold Zigzag Surmounted with the kingdom Badge
> Title Bard A wide gold Zigzag Surmounted with the Groups
> Badge
> Winner of non- A wide Silver Zigzag
> Titled completion
> First place
> Poem A Purple Zigzag
>
> Story A Green Zigzag
>
> Song A Red Zigzag
>
> A college Patron A wide White Band
>
> Five time Judge A wide black Band
>
> Previous Primer Bard A cloak of many Colors
>
>
>
>
>
> This Charter having Been placed before the Bards of Ansteorra By the
> Premier Bard, Willow De Wisp, Two Times and Voted to the Positive at the
> Coronation of their Royal Majesties Daffyd Whittaker and Octavia de
> Verdon Becomes the official charter of the Ansteorra College of Bards as
> of December 11 AS XXXIV.
>
>
Willow the Bellow charter you POst Bellow does not match the hard copy I am
Looking at that I was presented By Master Ulf. It dose Match the second
draft of the charter But not the final draft I was presented.
>
> Orginial CharterFrom:
> willowdewisp at juno.com
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> X-Status: New
> X-Juno-Att: 0
> X-Juno-RefParts: 0
>
> Guidelines and Charter for the Bardic Collage of Ansteorra
> The term "Bard" in this document is a general term used to refer to all
> musicians, poets, storytellers, skalds, actors, and other performing
> artists.
> The Bardic College exists to promote the bardic Arts in the kingdom of
> Ansteorra. To be an educational resource, and supportive organization
> for bards and those wishing to be Bards. To maintain the Bardic History,
> and Bardic Traditions of the Kingdom of Ansteorra. To encourage bardic
> styles consistent with the historical era of the Society.
>
> 1. The primary purpose of the Bardic Collage is to strengthen the
> Bardic Arts through the sharing of information, ideas, and techniques in
> formal and informal gatherings.
>
> 2. As it has been in the past in this kingdom any person wishing to be
> a "Bard" in the Kingdom of Ansteorra has only to claim such.
>
> 3. Membership in the Bardic Collage is open to anyone saying that
> he or she is a bard. The Bard not the collage can only cancel
> membership into the collage.
>
> 4. All bards are autonomous except in matter concerning all Bards.
> Each Bard is an individual with their own style and personality;
> hence the collage does not mandate the type of Bard craft an individual
> bard must pursue. Nor does a single Bard talk for all bards in the
> kingdom.
>
> 5. The Bardic Collage is to remain forever non political. Those who
> hold offices are but trusted servants they do not govern. They are to
> work for the support of the Bardic Arts. Final authority for the collage
> comes from the Bards of Ansteorra a whole. The Bardic Collage does not
> have a political opinion.
> Political opinions are that of an individual and do not reflect that of
> the
> collage.
>
> 6. Bards earn their keep by patronage; hence, a bard may be hired by
> anyone choosing to hire a Bard. The College will not regulate or
> interfere.
>
> 7. The Premier Bard Of Ansteorra is chosen annually, by the
> customs and traditions of the Bardic Collage. It is the duty of the
> Premier Bard to arrange the competition for his successor as close to a
> year as possible. Format of Completion to be chosen by the Outgoing
> bard. The competition is open to all Bards of Ansteorra.
>
> II. The Offices of the Bardic College are: The Premier Bard of
> Ansteorra, College information Coordinator, Newsletter Editor, and
> Education and Performance Opportunity Officer. Below is a brief
> explanation of duties. The list is not all-inclusive. The Premier Bard
> may appoint deputies to handle tasks during their tenure.
>
> 1. Premier Bard of Ansteorra is the executive head of the college,
> and is also responsible for promoting the bardic arts in the Kingdom of
> Ansteorra, to be an example of bardic excellence, a roll model for
> aspiring Bards. Is responsible for facilitating the completion to choose
> his or her successor in/ or about November.
>
> 2. College information Coordinator: Coordinates and Maintains
> Bardic Information and contacts in a physical and electronic storage.
> Facilitates meetings of the College. Distributes Briefings of those
> gatherings to the Kingdom Officers and Populace. Serves as the
> focal point for the Kingdoms Bardic Network. It is recommended that the
> Coordinator appoint deputies one from each region to assist with the
> office. Term of office 2 years
>
> 3. Newsletter editor is responsible for publishing the Quarterly
> newsletter of the bardic college. It is recommended that this office
> also has deputies Term of Office 2 years
>
> 4. Education and Performance Opportunity Officer is responsible
> for Research and Educational material on the bardic arts and in arranging
> performance venues. It is recommended that this office have deputies,
> from each region, to assist in promoting research, education and
> performance opportunities related to the Bardic Arts.
>
> III. Competitions
>
> 1. It is choice of each group as to whether or not they have a title
> bard competition. The college will offer aid to local groups seeking to
> have a title bard or any other kind of competitions. It is encouraged
> that all local groups have a title bard. Selection of a title bard is
> left to the discretion of the individual group,according to their
> traditions and wishes. Prizes and the Symbols of Office are the
> discretion of the Group not the College. The Kingdom's Premier Bard is to
> be chosen annually, by the traditions of the college.
>
> 3. Any group, guild, or household can hold non-titled competitions
> at any time.
>
> Gatherings
>
> Gatherings are organized activities for bards that can range from
> Bardic Circles, guild meetings, and Quarterly Bardic Work weekends. To
> encourage the bardic arts and an environment of cooperation among the
> bards we encourage groups to have some type of bardic outlet for the
> bards of their group.
>
> 1. Bardic Circles are non completion activities at events were bards
> may perform for all those who wish to listen and participate. These are
> wonderful places for bards and the audience to give Largess to bards
> that touch their hearts.
>
> 2. Bardic Guilds or gatherings are done at the group level to
> encourage support amongst the bards. Sharing of knowledge and skill, a
> place to practice and share new material. The structure of these meetings
> is left to the discretion of the group. They can be formal practice
> sessions to mini revels.
>
> 3. Bardic Work weekends are the meetings and work group
> sponsored by the college. That may be sponsored by a group. If a group
> does not sponsor a work weekend then it falls into its default location.
> The current Information Coordinator of the college, whose responsibility
> it is to ensure that the regular meetings take place, decides the
> default location.
>
> IV. Symbols of a Bard
>
> The bardic Sash has been a long time standing representation of the
> bards in this kingdom and shall remain so. Bards may decorate their
> slashes according to custom or however they please. Please remember that
> heraldic designs belong to the group or individual that registered them
> and cannot be displayed except with permission of the owner.
>
> Customary achievements for the bardic Sash.
> The sash it self is Blue trimmed at the ends with Gold fringe.
> The following are the customary symbols.
> Primer Bard A wide gold Zigzag
> Surmounted with the kingdom Badge
> Title Bard A wide gold Zigzag
> Surmounted with the Groups Badge
> Winner of non- A wide Silver Zigzag
> Titled completion
> First place
> Poem A Purple Zigzag
> Story A Green Zigzag
> Song A Red Zigzag
> Other symbols
> A college Patron A wide White Band
> Five time Judge A wide black Band
> Previous Premier Bard A cloak of many colors.
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