ES - Elfsea Defender Chivalric Tourney

gutridge at us.ibm.com gutridge at us.ibm.com
Wed Jun 14 16:19:53 PDT 2000



Warning :  Sarcastic reply comming!

I would not go out of my way to attend an all rapier event, it is not of
interest to me.  If there was a tournament on the same weekend elsewhere I
would probably attend that!   I feel that this would strongly be the
opinion of many people.  Change is not always a bad thing, but in this case
I feel that we would end up with an event (springfaire) that would not be
well attended.

The point may be that we have to tone down the chivalric list a bit so that
appropriate attention could be given to the light fighters.  Maybe we run a
round of light fighting followed by a round of heavy fignting, continuing
in this manner all day.  This would expose more people to light fighting
that otherwise may not watch and would allow the crown to attend both
equally.  Yes, this is a long day but would also give a lot of rest and off
time between rounds for people with no interest in the other venue to eat
or sociallize.  This would also allow the list mistresses and other running
the list appropriate time to arrange pairings etc.. and would limit the
wasted time we often have between rounds.


This is just the opinion of the autocrat, it not like I run the thing.


Daniel


"Rayburn, Timothy" <TRayburn at healthaxis.com>@ansteorra.org on 06/14/2000
04:47:31 PM

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Subject:  RE: ES - Elfsea Defender Chivalric Tourney





*Warning Personal Opinion Incoming*

This is a myth, and a really bad one in my feeling.

Mixing Rapier and Heavy lists at the same time takes away from both and
makes it 'just another tournament'.

Making the first several rounds run on 8 list fields will bring up the
speed somewhat, but people want fewer list fields as the rounds go on so
the can watch each fight, this slows things down.

The fact of the matter is that once the first two rounds of a tournament
are over (double elim) you've taken out half the combatants, and each fight
begins to become interesting for a growing number of people.  While there
is nothing about a list that stops the quarter finals (four fights) from
being fought on four list fields, it's bad showmanship because everyone
wants to see all the fights.

When you have three big tournaments (Rapier, Armored, Archery) at one
event, then there /will/ be overlap in the schedule.  In general you have
the hours of 10-5 to complete all the competitions for the day.  2 hours
(and change) each, divided evenly.  Otherwise you overlap competitions, and
that means someone isn't in the lime light.

On the other hand, with two competitions each you have 3.5 hours for each,
divided evenly.  That is somewhat more workable.

Now, if one of the lists was moved to Sunday, than that would also
accomplish this, but Rapier and Archery have been relegated to this in
times past and it always hurts the competition.

Timothy of Glastonbury
Opinionated Archer, Rapier Fighter, Herald, Spectator, etc.

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Subject:        Re: ES - Elfsea Defender Chivalric Tourney

In a message dated 6/14/00 1:48:24 PM Central Daylight Time,
dmmerlick at earthlink.net writes:

<<  Moving the Rapier Defender
 might not be such a bad idea. It would allow most of the daytime
 attention to be focused on two championships at Defender, Chivalric and
 Archery.  At the same time more focus could also be given to the rapier
 tourney without competing with the Chivalric Defender.
  >>
 I disagree. There is as much civalric fighting at Springfaire and moving
Rapier Defender to Springfaire will take away some of the prestige of it
being a "Defender" tournament. If we have a big enough list field, that
many
things are going on at once, we should be able to it all and everyone get
enough focus.
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