ES - Children at events

[Duke, Wes]

Actually Caelin,
I believe Sir Kief had ruled that if you were going on to a combat field you
had to have a none combatant authorization even if a hold has been called.

Fearghus




	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Richard Threlkeld [SMTP:rjt at softwareinnovation.com]
	Sent:	Monday, February 19, 2001 3:10 PM
	To:	elfsea at ansteorra.org
	Subject:	RE: ES - Children at events

	I believe the non-combatant box is only required when you will be on

	the field when it is active. In melees at Pensic, for instance, they

	have all these on active fields. In most cases in Ansteorra, we do 
	not send waterbearers on the field unless it is a hold *and* we 
	have permission from the marshals on the field. 

	The non-combatant box means you have taken a short course in the 
	rules and etiquette of the lists and melee fields. You know enough 
	to be fairly safe and you know that being on an active field is 
	never completely safe (arrows, for instance, do not know that you 
	are a non-combatant). 

	We request Chirurgeons to get the non-combatant training. In fact, 
	we recommend (but do not require) Chirurgeons to become field 
	marshals in one or more combat activities. They will understand 
	more about the fighters and fighting, be even more useful, and 
	the fighters and marshals may trust them more.

	Caelin

	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org
[mailto:owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org]On
	> Behalf Of Julie Self
	> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:06 PM
	> To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
	> Subject: RE: ES - Children at events
	> 
	> 
	> I have just gotten an authorization card that has a Non-Combat
block with 
	> Scout, Banner Bearer, Chirurgeon, Herald and Water Bearer in 
	> parentheses.  
	> Does this not mean that they really should be authorized?
	> Gwenllian Hertewelle
	> 
	> 
	> >From: "Richard Threlkeld" <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
	> >Reply-To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
	> >To: <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
	> >Subject: RE: ES - Children at events
	> >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:57:00 -0600
	> >
	> >You do not need to be authorized to be a waterbearer. We prefer
that you
	> >work with the official Waterbearer for the event. He or she will 
	> make sure
	> >you know the rules for the day. When you may enter a list field,
what to
	> >do if someone puts the water bottle head in their mouth, ...
	> >
	> >We are currently reviving the Waterbearer's Guild. It will
operate under
	> >the Chirurgeon's Guild (waterbearers report to the chirurgeons),
but has
	> >its own Kingdom Waterbearer office. There will be a short (about
30 
	> >minutes)
	> >class on sanitation, rules, and organization. Those who take the 
	> class will
	> >be Journeyman Waterbearers and entitled to wear a blue baldric
with the
	> >Waterbearer's badge on it. We expect those people to run the
waterbearing
	> >at events.
	> >
	> >A Journeyman Waterbearer is not required at any event and they
have
	> >no authority over the Autocrats or whomever the Autocrat chooses
to
	> >waterbear. However, they will make themselves available. As an
Autocrat,
	> >I would choose someone who wanted to do it and who had
instruction in
	> >doing it well and who (probably) had experience in doing it.
	> >
	> >That was probably much more than you wanted, but my two cents
worth.
	> >
	> >Caelin
	> >Deputy Kingdom Chirurgeon (and former Kingdom Waterbearer)
	> >
	> > > I thought that in order to be a waterbearer you now had to be
	> > > authorized -
	> > > I know I've overheard people say "are you authorized to be a 
	> >waterbearer?"
	> > > Or do I have my wires crossed (again)?
	> > >
	> > > Lavina
	> > >
	> > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Richard Threlkeld wrote:
	> > >
	> > > >
	> > > > > 1.  Would it be possible for those who are interested in
having a
	> > > > > page/squire (or whatever appropriate title is) all to
gather at an
	> > > > > upcoming event, set aside a time with the MOC and give a
talk
	> > > about what
	> > > > > they as "Sir Knight" do as a knight and would except of a
page; or
	> > > > > what "Lord/Lady Herald" does and would need help with.
After 
	> >everyone
	> > > > > gives their presentations, the kids could break up into
	> > > groups and meet
	> > > > > either as small group or individually with the person they
	> > > wish to work
	> > > > > with.  Things could progress from there...
	> > > >  Great idea. There are two possibilities. Let the children
	> > > choose or let
	> > > > the adult choose. Each has merits and in the end, both must
choose. 
	> >And
	> > > > it will also require input from the child's parents.
	> > > > >
	> > > > > 2.  Why can't the older children be criers or runners at
	> > > events.  Tabbards
	> > > > > could be made to easily identify these pages.
	> > > > Or waterbearers!
	> > > >
	> > > > >
	> > > > > Again - just my .02 cents worth.
	> > > > >
	> > > > > Lady Lavina
	> > > > > (again - who is always willing to give her advise on
subjects)
	> > > > Caelin
	> > > >
	> > > >
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