[Elfsea] Re: Nine Worthies
Morgan Cain (Ansteorra)
morgancain at earthlink.net
Tue Jul 22 07:29:21 PDT 2003
> Where did you get this list?? Is It period?
>
> The two list I have are different. The Marchese Tommaso II of Saluzzo
> list a bunch of Amazons. Jacques Iverny painted This list in 15th
> century.
> Semiramis, Lampheto, Marpasia, Synoppe, Thamiris, Menalippe, Hippolyta,
> Orithyia, and Penthesilea
>
> The other list I have is from a late 16th century Heraldry book
> Deborah, Judith, Jael (Jewish)
> Minerva, Semiramis, Thamiris (Classical)
> Matilda of England, Joanna of Naples, Isabel of Spain (Christian)
The lists for women seem to be MUCH more fluid than the one for men. I took
two or three lists of women (one from the Burgkmayr engravings of 1516, the
other is French) and chose the ones that I liked best. It seems very much
to be the way that all the lists were devised. I prefer the lists that were
more in line with the male Nine Worthies, on the scheme that Dryden
summarized so well:
"Nine Worthies were they called, of different rites:
Three Jews, three pagans, and three Christian knights."
That's why I don't like the all-Amazon version. The symmetry and
recognition of other Worthy Women makes it easier for me to teach the
lessons of the Nine Worthies as equivalently female traits.
---= Morgan
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