[Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?

Stefen and Rhonda Hays housedragonstar at earthlink.net
Wed Oct 13 17:18:23 PDT 2004


Knowne World Events are awarded by the officer at corporate as far as I
know.

I am not sure how the finances work, but I am soon to find out!

Medb


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Synrik" <synrik at earthlink.net>
To: "Barony of Elfsea" <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?


> Over all, not something to be done by the first time Autocrat . . . . .
But
> not impossible.
>
> So, when your doing a Local event, you go through the Local seneschal and
> treasurer, with blessings from the Baron, and Kingdom events are through
the
> Kingdom seneschal and treasurer (with help at the local level) with
blessings
> from the Crown.
>
> What about Known World events?  Still handled through the Kingdom
seneschal
> and treasurer (with help at the local level)?
>
>
> -------------  Gustav
>
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> "Dale, Richard N" wrote:
>
> > Bidding for a kingdom event when you are not using a local group brings
> > up some challenges.
> >
> > 1.You would have to have a steward who would still be warranted as a
> > deputy seneschal either by local seneschal or a regional or the kingdom
> > seneschal. This warranting process is for insurance and other purpose.
> > 2. You would have to abide by kingdom Financial policy and normal policy
> > for the event.
> >
> > I have never seen a private group hold a kingdom event before. IT could
> > be done, but you are going to face some unique challenges.
> >
> > Master Richard Fairbourne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elfsea-bounces+dalern=aetna.com at ansteorra.org
> > [mailto:elfsea-bounces+dalern=aetna.com at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of
> > Synrik
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:56 PM
> > To: Barony of Elfsea
> > Subject: Re: [Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?
> >
> > Actually, you are correct.
> >
> > If there was a Group of people who had their collective 'stuff'
> > together, who also had their own seed money / accounts / people, that
> > they could in fact submit a bid directly to the Kingdom to host the
> > event.
> >
> > I do understand that as a courtesy it is good to inform the Baron and
> > Baroness of the area that the planned event will be taking place in,
> > plus the Baron and Baroness of whom any of your people are attached to.
> > And it is a good idea to ask them, plus your Peers to review your bid
> > (if you have any hopes of actually getting it) to see where you could
> > improve upon it.  But this stage of approval / disapproval is about
> > Money, 'Are you (and your people) Serious', and have you thought of
> > everything.
> >
> > In this case, The Group would need to provide a little more 'proof' of
> > their intentions to host the event in a manner befitting the Crown.  But
> > this would  review the stress a little bit from the local Barony and has
> > the benefit of advancing The Group as a whole . . . Particularly if The
> > group were Kingdom-wide or Known World.
> >
> > -------------  Gustav
> >
> > PS.:  Not that I plan on doing it today . . . . . But just doing some
> > serious thinking.
> >
> > Valentyn Drake wrote:
> >
> > > I think what he's asking is if someone in the barony can submit a bid
> > > that is NOT on behalf of the barony; where the barony is not the
> > > actual host.  Or am I totally off, Synrik?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Valentyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Threlkeld
> > > [mailto:elfsea-bounces+donvalentyn=jeffturnerfiction.com at ansteorra.org
> > > ] On Behalf Of Richard Threlkeld
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:17 PM
> > > To: Barony of Elfsea
> > > Subject: RE: [Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All event bids must be signed by the Seneschal, but they must be
> > > approved by the financial committee of which the Baron and Baroness
> > > together are one member. The financial committee approval is obviously
> >
> > > because of the possible financial profit/loss. The Seneschal is also a
> >
> > > member of the financial committee but has to look at many other issues
> >
> > > like the people available to put this on, the proposed site, other
> > > events we might like to host, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In service,
> > >
> > > Caelin on Andrede
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   _____
> > >
> > > From: elfsea-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com at ansteorra.org on
> > > behalf of Synrik
> > > Sent: Wed 10/13/2004 3:00 PM
> > > To: Rixende de Rouen; Barony of Elfsea
> > > Subject: Re: [Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?
> > >
> > > Question:  Is there any other circumstance, other than relying on the
> > > Barony's Financial System (Accounts / Seed Money, etc.), where we (a
> > > Group) would be required to gain the approval of the Baron and
> > > Baroness?
> > >
> > > Rixende de Rouen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greetings Elfsea!
> > > >
> > > > At business meeting it was decided that the Barony of Elfsea would
> > > > put forth a bid for a Kingdom Level event.
> > >
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