[Elfsea] problem with alianorra

Mon Dec 8 11:27:25 PST 2008

Hi, Caelin, 

I am having a problem getting my trailer back from Alianorra.  She feels I should reimburse her for the wheel and tire she ruined and will not bring back the trailer unless I agree to pay her $150.  I am not sure how to proceed with this.  I would prefer not to take this to court to get my trailer back, and I am hoping that you might be able to act as an intermediary in this.  I am sorry to involve you in it, but I have had a few people tell me that you at least need to know what is going on since you are her Pelican.

She is not answering my emails to her, and I am too upset over this to call her on her cell phone and talk to her about it.  It is my contention she ruined it by driving it recklessly (between 70 and 80, fully loaded, in spite of my asking her to slow down, and also talking on the phone while driving).  When the tire blew out, I had just gotten off the phone with her asking her to pull over as I could see there was something wrong, and she would not pull over, claiming the problem was "wind-shear" this was maybe the third time I had mentioned she was going too fast and she wouldn't listen.  I don't feel like I owe her anything, but I did offer to pay for half (since the tire *could* have gotten a nail or something), which was promptly rejected by her.  

I sent her an email last Sunday asking if I was reading her correctly that she would not return the trailer unless I agreed to pay for the tire and rim.  I sent her another email today asking if she would please give me an answer.  I have heard nothing from her since my response which indicated I was unwilling to assume the burden of responsibility for what she did.  Her last email to me was 11 days ago.

Please help?  Thanks.  I am copying my last email to her, and pasting it below:

returning the trailer, paying for tire/rim‏

From:
 Miss M Brow (starstruck503 at hotmail.com) 

Sent:
Sun 11/30/08 4:18 PM

To: 
alianorramacaiodh at yahoo.com

Alianorra, I just want to make sure that I am reading this correctly.  I have read it several times, and it sounds as though you are saying that you will not return my trailer unless I pay for the tire.  Am I understanding you correctly? As for the maintenence on the tires, I made sure they had air in the the day before left, and while they were not pumped up to the recomended 50 psi, they were close.  I always check the tire pressure and since they had about 10,000 miles on them I feel that there was adequate maintenence on them.  Just for the record, one was 42 and one was 43psi the day before.  I know that an added load will increase the tire pressure and assumed that was enough. I feel you were driving recklessly, probably talking on the phone too as that seemed to be your habit from the few hours I spent in your jeep on the way to and from your house; and there was no wind at all that night, so if it felt like there was (as you claimed was the reason for your erratic lane changes) the trailer was loaded incorrectly.  Every time I tried to tell you something you informed me you knew what you were doing, so eventually I gave up trying to tell you anything. By the time the tire actually blew, I had given up hope of you listening to me, so I let you do whatever you needed to do.  You are right, I didn't help.  My suggestions you slow down were ignored.  I will not pay you for the rim I feel your carelessness ruined.  I am willing to pay for the tire as it could have been a nail or something that caused it to blow, but you took so long to pull over I do not feel responsible for the rim, and will not pay you for replacing it.  I did not mention anything because I thought you were going to do the right thing and absorb the costs of your mistake, but since you seem to blame everyone else for anything that happens to you, that was apparently my mistake.

Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:49:46 -0800From: alianorramacaiodh at yahoo.comSubject: RE: [Ansteorra] Hafla Thanks!To: starstruck503 at hotmail.com

If the tires were maintained properly I feel like it would not have blown. As for thanking you for the trailer in the Hafla, I didn't feel it was neccessary because it was not used just to tow the hafla stuff but also many other peoples belongings as well. 

Considering I spent hours trying to get the trailer fixed in the dead of night with my daughter there and what I feel like is little to no help from you in the middle of doing so on the side of the highway and in one of the worst parts of town half does not seem adequate. 150.00 is what I will accept. 

If I had rented a uhaul trailer a tire would have been covered in the cost of rental in case of a blown tire, and they would have come out and changed it. I thank you for the use of your trailer, but in the future I will be using another method of transporting the belongings of myself and other members of the kingdom that I am responsible for. --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Miss M Brow <starstruck503 at hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Miss M Brow <starstruck503 at hotmail.com>Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Hafla Thanks!To: alianorramacaiodh at yahoo.comDate: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 9:46 AM

While I am on the subject, allow me to tell you I am a little offended that the use of the trailer wasn't worth mentioning in the letter of thanks for the hafla.  Don't bother correcting the oversight, I just want you to know that I feel a bit slighted.  Now if you had paid me for the use of it, and yes I *do* rent it out on occasion, it would be a different story.
*****this below was my first response to her comment about needing reimbursement, but after she did not respond I started to get a little upset, and sent the message above, to which she *did* respond; I snipped it out of the sent email and inserted it here****

How much do you want?  Since you were the one driving it  fully loaded at more than the rated speed I don't feel I should absorb the entire cost.  How about half?  You would have paid at least that if you had rented a trailer, and I did try to tell you about the speed issue a few times.

****** > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:49:53 +0000> Subject: Re:RE: [Ansteorra] Hafla Thanks!> From: alianorramacaiodh at yahoo.com> To: starstruck503 at hotmail.com> > Yes its all back in one piece. When I bring it to you I need reimbursement for the tire.> > ------Original Message------> From: Miss M Brow <starstruck503 at hotmail.com>> To: <alianorramacaiodh at yahoo.com>> Date: Thu, Nov 27, 2008 02:40 AM> Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Hafla Thanks!> > > So, we need to figure out my getting my trailer back... I am assuming it made it back in one piece, yes?> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:00:29 -0800> From: alianorramacaiodh at yahoo.com> To: gleannabhann at yahoogroups.com; ansteorra at ansteorra.org; Bordermarch at lists.ansteorra.org> Subject: [Ansteorra] Hafla Thanks!> > Greetings to all!> > Once again we close the doors of Borderkeep and plan for indoor activities and Winter Revels. I have already heard plans for Gulfwar from both of our fair Kingdoms and all in all everyone looks forward to meeting again in March. > > I would be remiss if I did not send out a heartfelt thank you to those that assisted me in the Friday and Saturday night Hafla's and Revel's. > > Thank you to all of the gentleman who helped me to carry carpets to and from the Big Fellowship Tent both days and nights. As my pelican says "all you ever have to do is raise your hand and ask for help" How true that is! Thank you to the Ansteorran and Gleann Abhann help I received. > > Please Drummers and Dancers forgive me for I do not know all of your names. But a Huge Thank you to our Drummers and Dancers of both nights. As well as all those there to watch and encourage us. There are many nights at a Hafla a fledgling new dancer or a new drummer takes their first steps or hits a dumbek for the first time. It is those there that encourage that help them to take those first tentative steps towards a new art and I thank you for that. > > Saturday night we were regaled with talent that spanned centuries in dance and I would like to send out a special Thank you to each of the Dancers for taking the time to share with us their unique skill and talent. I have listed the dancer and her dance style as best I know it. > > Mistress Rhiannon 2nd century Gupta> Lady Alianorra 12th century Temple Hindu> Lady Colecte 15th century Spanish Romani> Lady Teraija Single Sword Turkish> HL Ahlanna Single Sword Turkish> Lady Kajira Single Sword Turkish> Maria of Gleann Abhann13th century Bedoin Nomad> > These ladies are all very uniquely talented in their style of dance and honored us with an exhibition of that skill. Thank you again. > > And of course one can not forget our Fair Queen Elizabeth, Thank you for joining us Saturday Your Majesty, we hope you enjoyed it. > > My special thanks goes out to the kind gentle who, while I slumbered in bed at an early hour next to my daughter, picked up the carpets and rolled them up for my return as well as cleaned the Big Fellowship Tent. A great huzzah goes out to you. > > Thank you again to all, and I look forward to seeing many of you this March at Gulfwar and all those that can attend again next year at Bordermarch Autumn Melee's for fighting, fun, fellowship, and of course dancing! > > Till then In Service do I remain,> > Lady Alianorra MaAiodh> > > > > _______________________________________________> Ansteorra mailing list>
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