[Elfsea] Business meeting notes
Dáire and Druinne -- the Hays Family
daire.druinne at gmail.com
Wed Feb 20 00:25:04 PST 2008
Master Caelin has done a great job of explaining this situation - thanks!
And thanks to HL Hanna for her notes - well done.
Dáire and Druinne
On Feb 20, 2008 12:26 AM, Richard Threlkeld <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
> The kingdom budget exceeds the kingdom income by several thousand
> dollars. I don't have the details of what has increased and what has
> decreased over time, but I believe some of it includes:
> 1. the Black Star costs more than the subsidy from the Board. The
> Kingdom has increased the cost per page for event ads to help with this.
> 2. There are symposiums for the Kingdom Exchequer and Kingdom
> Seneschal which they are expected to attend. The Kingdom pays some or all of
> the costs of attending. The Society pays the costs of the venue, materials,
> etc. Like everything else these costs have been rising.
> 3. Budgets have increased to reflect the rising costs of goods we
> use (which have gone up for at least the cost of fuel if not other factors)
> 4. To keep up attendance at events, many groups have reduced their
> profits to keep the prices down. This reduces the kingdom's part.
> 5. I suspect people are being reimbursed more often when they would
> have "eaten" the costs of things – simply because they cannot afford to do
> 6. Attendance is down at events because of fuel costs, reduced
> spending money, too many events, or whatever and that reduces profits which
> reduces the kingdom part.
> 7. Travel costs for the Crown have risen also. I don't know if their
> reimbursement allowance has change, however.
> 8. We have a very democratic tendency to want everyone to be able to
> be an officer if they are competent to do so. Where previously officers were
> expected to shoulder a good percentage of the costs of their office, we now
> expect them to ask for reimbursement because it would be difficult for many
> of them to "eat" the costs. This is different from #5 in that once the
> expectation of reimbursement is entrenched, those who could afford the costs
> ask for reimbursement because it is accepted. I'm not arguing this is wrong
> or even undesirable – it is just a trend.
> 9. There are probably 20 other reasons I have not considered
> The budget shortfall is not a cash shortfall because many of the officers
> don't actually ask for reimbursement even though their budget allows for it
> and because this is a projected shortfall (though last year was an actual
> shortfall) and we have time to fix it.
> In service,
> Caelin on Andrede
> Elfsea Exchequer
> *From:* elfsea-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:
> elfsea-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] *On Behalf Of *Michelle Dodd
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2008 23:17 PM
> *To:* dmcovel79 at yahoo.com; elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Elfsea] Business meeting notes
> I admit that I am probably un-informed, but I was un-aware that the
> Kingdom is bleeding money. What was meant by this comment? Is there a
> known reason for this bleeding?
> Ly Gabriele
> "To dream anything that you want to dream, that is the beauty of the human
> To trust anything that you want to do, that is the strength of the human
> To trust yourself, to test your limits, that is the courage to succeed."
> Bernard Edmonds
> > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:46:09 -0800
> > From: dmcovel79 at yahoo.com
> > To: elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org
> > Subject: [Elfsea] Business meeting notes
> > Greetings!
> > Here are the notes for this month's meeting. It's a
> > long post, but the populous might want to read the
> > B&B's part at the end.
> > In Service,
> > Hanna
> > Elfsea Business Meeting – Feb. 18, 2008
> > @ Pyro & Caelin's house
> > snip
> > Baron & Baroness –
> > Planning Lots of travel, but people need to remember
> > to play nice, even when tired.
> > Try to encourage new comers, talk to them and ask them
> > to help. People often don't know they can help or how
> > to volunteer, but being asked to help makes them
> > happy. So don't be shy and help out those who might
> > be.
> > Need award recommendations! Upcoming events: Crown,
> > Dragonsfire Tor and Spring Fair.
> > Keystone meeting will be called soon. B&B plan to
> > only use Defender to make new Keystones, but need to
> > talk to the Keystones before then.
> > Need to ask Financial committee and populous about
> > giving more than 50% of profits from Crown to the
> > Kingdom. Since the Kingdom is bleeding money, any
> > extra income is welcome. Lets try to generate ideas
> > for fund raiser.
> > 'Tourists don't know where they've been; Travelers don't know where
> they're going!' - Paul Theroux
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