[Elfsea] Bear pit vs. melee vs. regular tourney

Tue Apr 7 11:19:33 PDT 2009

Can you explain a progressive melee to me please?

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From: elfsea-bounces+dalej=autonation.com at lists.ansteorra.org
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Behalf Of glen wilkerson
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:18 PM
To: Barony of Elfsea
Subject: Re: [Elfsea] Bear pit vs. melee vs. regular tourney

I would like to put in a pitch for progressive melees as well.

Alaric

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Brandon McDermott 
	Sent: Apr 7, 2009 12:57 PM 
	To: Barony of Elfsea 
	Subject: Re: [Elfsea] Bear pit vs. melee vs. regular tourney 

Pros and Cons of different formats:

  Bear Pit: Pro's
1. Allows fighters of all skill levels many more fights than might
otherwise be had in a "standard format" Tourney.
2. Allows fighters to fight as many fights as they want and/or can
stand. (The test of endurance you spoke of)
3. Allows fighters to try as many combinations of weapon styles as there
are weapons available. Not to say you couldn't use any weapon style in
most tournaments, but with a limited number of bouts in a "standard"
tournament the fighters thoughts often turn to what they do and know
best.
4. These can be some of the most fun tournaments.

Bear Pit:Con's
1. One or two upper echelon fighters can potentially dominate a bear
pit's rounds by remaining undefeated for 10, 20, 30 rounds or more. This
can be overcome in a number of ways like: retaining wounds from round to
round,limiting the number of rounds a fighter may remain "in control",
or by requiring different weapon styles to be used.
2. These can be the most grueling tournaments.

"Standard Tourney": Pro's
1. These allow fighters to bring their best weapon forms to the table
and test themselves at the highest levels. 
2. This is the style of tourney one must win to become King or Queen of
Ansteorra, so they should be trained for if that is one of your goals
for your SCA career.
3. I personally find the elegance of fighters at their best to be very
enjoyable to watch.
4. Winning these often leads to many hours of service to the Barony or
group hosting the event, which means you get to know the people in that
area much better.

"Standard Tourney": Con's
1. The monotony of seeing the same style or styles over and over again
may not be as enjoyable for the non-fighters watching.
2. If you are not interested in becoming the next King or Queen the lack
of "fun" or levity in SOME of these tourneys can be a deterrent.
3. Winning these often leads to many hours of service to the Barony or
group hosting the event, which means less time to spend with your family
and more time "working"

Melee :Pro's
1. Melee's are almost always enjoyable to watch. 
2. The energy levels can be incredible, and its a Great workout.
3. Participants learn leadership, control, stamina, heart, etc..etc..

Melee:Con's
1. It is hard to declare a single winner, say as a champion.
2. It may be hard to see the prowess of any one fighter in the frey.
This can be for many reasons like they were leading not fighting etc... 

These are just a few Ideas on the subject. Fighters of Ansteorra, please
feel free to add your opinion to the mix. 

Gramercy,
Lord Lochlan Dunn
Elfsea Defender 
Steppes Warlord
Stargate's Champion

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Dale, Jennifer <DaleJ at autonation.com> wrote:

	From: Dale, Jennifer <DaleJ at autonation.com>
	Subject: [Elfsea] Bear pit vs. melee vs. regular tourney
	To: elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org
	Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 12:11 PM

	I am trying to finalize an idea I have running through my head
for an event, but I need the fighters of our Barony's help.
	Can you please tell me what you like/hate about bear pits,
melees, etc. 
	I always liked bear pits because it shows stamina of the
fighter. I haven't been to but one or two melee events and didn't really
pay attention too much. 
	So if you could tell me which you prefer and again,
likes/dislikes. 
	Thank you 
	Lady Giliana 
	Jennifer Dale 

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