[Elfsea] All Star Archery review

Sebastian sebastianf at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jun 20 16:08:45 PDT 2011

My apologies for not recognizing or remebering you.  There were quite a few 
students between the two classes (yea).

I can test the bow.  I do not have a spine tester, they are more costly.  I can 
give you a fair estimate on the spine weight or if you come out Sunday we can 
shoot them and see how they perform.


From: Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com>
To: Barony of Elfsea <elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 5:52:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Elfsea] All Star Archery review

I actually did attend your class Saturday (I was the one who came in partway 
through your first class and sat nearest the door).  Without my bow, and the 
mystery shafts, of course, it would have been impossible to answer those 
questions.  Still, perhaps I can catch up with you soon to work on this.  I'd 
very much like not having to get my own bow scale and spine tester at a time 
when my resources are stretched so thin.  Can any of this be done at the Bedford 
fighter practice, perhaps? 

Thanks very much,

Antoine D'Aubernoun

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Sebastian <sebastianf at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Thank you for sharing your experience so that others do not have to go through 
>the same.
>At the risk of sounding snooty  had you attended my archery class at Kings 
>College Saturday I would have answered your questions about your bow and saved 
>you the aggrevation of dealing with the compound bow crowd.  That said I would 
>be more than happy to help you with this challenge.  I will be at the Elfsea 
>fighter practice Wednesday night and at our archery practice this Sunday.  
>If I can be of help please let me know.
>Don Sebastian Frobishire (Arc D' Or)
>Elfsea Hospitaler
From: Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com>
>To: steppes at lists.ansteorra.org; Barony of Elfsea <elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 5:23:18 PM
>Subject: [Elfsea] All Star Archery review
>Having wasted a significant portion of my afternoon on a failed search
>for help with my bow, I decided to salvage some usefulness from the
>exercize and post about my experience.  Hopefully, this will help
>someone else who might find themselves in a similar situation.
>I took my American style longbow into All Star Archery (and Marine
>Electronics) in Lewisville this afternoon.  I also brought four cedar
>shafts, randomly selected from a box of shafts my dad had laying
>around.  When I walked in, I said, “I’m hoping you can help me.  I
>have this bow, but no arrows.  I want to be sure of a few things
>before I spend a bunch of money on supplies.”  Before we could get to
>what information I wanted, the guy said, “We don’t see many longbows
>here,” (which is understandable), “and we won’t have any supplies for
>it.”  Okay, I get that.  “Well,” I said, “I mainly need to figure out
>the true weight of the bow at my draw length in order to get the right
>shafts.”  At this point, I expected to get help measuring my draw
>length, then we’d string my bow, put it on a bow scale, and off we’d
>go.  Instead, I got, “Well, it says 50 pounds on the bow.”  “Right,” I
>said, “but it doesn’t say at what draw length.”  “Well,” he said, “if
>you draw it to, you know, about the right amount, it’ll be around 50
>pounds.  If you draw it more or less, that’ll change, so there’s no
>way for me to know.  I guess if you want to string it, I can draw it
>and tell you about what it is...”  This is the point at which I should
>have just said thanks and left.  As it is, I talked for another minute
>or so, just to confirm that this was as helpful as it was going to
>Either this guy did not understand what I was asking, or they did not
>have a bow scale (otherwise, why wouldn’t he offer that instead of
>some guesstimate?).  Either way, this is not archery expertise.
>Having heard all that, I didn’t even proceed to my next question,
>which was whether they had a spine tester for verifying what the
>shafts I have are.  The entire experience was very much like buying a
>computer or camera at a big box store.  They’re fine for reciting
>specs from the side of the box, and they probably have an OK
>selection, but as soon as you start asking about video chipsets or
>f-stops, they have no clue.
>Save yourself the trip and avoid All Star Archery for traditional
>archery questions.
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