[Elfsea] All Star Archery review

Randy Shipp randyshipp at gmail.com
Mon Jun 20 16:19:44 PDT 2011

Oh, no problem!  As you say, you were fortunate to have lots of folks there,
which was really cool to see!

I will try my best to be at the Wednesday practice...Sunday's are sometimes
more complicated.  When is the next Sunday shoot?


On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Sebastian <sebastianf at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> My apologies for not recognizing or remebering you.  There were quite a few
> students between the two classes (yea).
> I can test the bow.  I do not have a spine tester, they are more costly.  I
> can give you a fair estimate on the spine weight or if you come out Sunday
> we can shoot them and see how they perform.
> Sebastian
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com>
> *To:* Barony of Elfsea <elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org>
> *Sent:* Mon, June 20, 2011 5:52:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Elfsea] All Star Archery review
> I actually did attend your class Saturday (I was the one who came in
> partway through your first class and sat nearest the door).  Without my bow,
> and the mystery shafts, of course, it would have been impossible to answer
> those questions.  Still, perhaps I can catch up with you soon to work on
> this.  I'd very much like not having to get my own bow scale and spine
> tester at a time when my resources are stretched so thin.  Can any of this
> be done at the Bedford fighter practice, perhaps?
> Thanks very much,
> Antoine D'Aubernoun
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Sebastian <sebastianf at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>>  Antoine;
>>  Thank you for sharing your experience so that others do not have to go
>> through the same.
>> At the risk of sounding snooty  had you attended my archery class at
>> Kings College Saturday I would have answered your questions about your bow
>> and saved you the aggrevation of dealing with the compound bow crowd.  That
>> said I would be more than happy to help you with this challenge.  I will be
>> at the Elfsea fighter practice Wednesday night and at our archery practice
>> this Sunday.
>> If I can be of help please let me know.
>> Don Sebastian Frobishire (Arc D' Or)
>> Elfsea Hospitaler
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com>
>> *To:* steppes at lists.ansteorra.org; Barony of Elfsea <
>> elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> *Sent:* Mon, June 20, 2011 5:23:18 PM
>> *Subject:* [Elfsea] All Star Archery review
>> Greetings,
>> Having wasted a significant portion of my afternoon on a failed search
>> for help with my bow, I decided to salvage some usefulness from the
>> exercize and post about my experience.  Hopefully, this will help
>> someone else who might find themselves in a similar situation.
>> I took my American style longbow into All Star Archery (and Marine
>> Electronics) in Lewisville this afternoon.  I also brought four cedar
>> shafts, randomly selected from a box of shafts my dad had laying
>> around.  When I walked in, I said, “I’m hoping you can help me.  I
>> have this bow, but no arrows.  I want to be sure of a few things
>> before I spend a bunch of money on supplies.”  Before we could get to
>> what information I wanted, the guy said, “We don’t see many longbows
>> here,” (which is understandable), “and we won’t have any supplies for
>> it.”  Okay, I get that.  “Well,” I said, “I mainly need to figure out
>> the true weight of the bow at my draw length in order to get the right
>> shafts.”  At this point, I expected to get help measuring my draw
>> length, then we’d string my bow, put it on a bow scale, and off we’d
>> go.  Instead, I got, “Well, it says 50 pounds on the bow.”  “Right,” I
>> said, “but it doesn’t say at what draw length.”  “Well,” he said, “if
>> you draw it to, you know, about the right amount, it’ll be around 50
>> pounds.  If you draw it more or less, that’ll change, so there’s no
>> way for me to know.  I guess if you want to string it, I can draw it
>> and tell you about what it is...”  This is the point at which I should
>> have just said thanks and left.  As it is, I talked for another minute
>> or so, just to confirm that this was as helpful as it was going to
>> get.
>> Either this guy did not understand what I was asking, or they did not
>> have a bow scale (otherwise, why wouldn’t he offer that instead of
>> some guesstimate?).  Either way, this is not archery expertise.
>> Having heard all that, I didn’t even proceed to my next question,
>> which was whether they had a spine tester for verifying what the
>> shafts I have are.  The entire experience was very much like buying a
>> computer or camera at a big box store.  They’re fine for reciting
>> specs from the side of the box, and they probably have an OK
>> selection, but as soon as you start asking about video chipsets or
>> f-stops, they have no clue.
>> Save yourself the trip and avoid All Star Archery for traditional
>> archery questions.
>> Yours,
>> --Antoine
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