[Elfsea] All Star Archery review

Threlkeld, Richard Richard.Threlkeld at xerox.com
Mon Jun 20 19:23:19 PDT 2011

This coming Sunday from noon till 4PM (ish).


Richard Threlkeld


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From: elfsea-bounces+richard.threlkeld=xerox.com at lists.ansteorra.org
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On Behalf Of Randy Shipp
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 6:20 PM
To: Barony of Elfsea
Subject: Re: [Elfsea] All Star Archery review


Oh, no problem!  As you say, you were fortunate to have lots of folks
there, which was really cool to see!


I will try my best to be at the Wednesday practice...Sunday's are
sometimes more complicated.  When is the next Sunday shoot?



On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Sebastian <sebastianf at sbcglobal.net>

My apologies for not recognizing or remebering you.  There were quite a
few students between the two classes (yea).


I can test the bow.  I do not have a spine tester, they are more costly.
I can give you a fair estimate on the spine weight or if you come out
Sunday we can shoot them and see how they perform.





From: Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com>

To: Barony of Elfsea <elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 5:52:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Elfsea] All Star Archery review

I actually did attend your class Saturday (I was the one who came in
partway through your first class and sat nearest the door).  Without my
bow, and the mystery shafts, of course, it would have been impossible to
answer those questions.  Still, perhaps I can catch up with you soon to
work on this.  I'd very much like not having to get my own bow scale and
spine tester at a time when my resources are stretched so thin.  Can any
of this be done at the Bedford fighter practice, perhaps? 


Thanks very much,


Antoine D'Aubernoun


On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Sebastian <sebastianf at sbcglobal.net>



Thank you for sharing your experience so that others do not have to go
through the same.


At the risk of sounding snooty  had you attended my archery class at
Kings College Saturday I would have answered your questions about your
bow and saved you the aggrevation of dealing with the compound bow
crowd.  That said I would be more than happy to help you with this
challenge.  I will be at the Elfsea fighter practice Wednesday night and
at our archery practice this Sunday.  



If I can be of help please let me know.


Don Sebastian Frobishire (Arc D' Or)

Elfsea Hospitaler



From: Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com>
To: steppes at lists.ansteorra.org; Barony of Elfsea
<elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 5:23:18 PM
Subject: [Elfsea] All Star Archery review


Having wasted a significant portion of my afternoon on a failed search
for help with my bow, I decided to salvage some usefulness from the
exercize and post about my experience.  Hopefully, this will help
someone else who might find themselves in a similar situation.

I took my American style longbow into All Star Archery (and Marine
Electronics) in Lewisville this afternoon.  I also brought four cedar
shafts, randomly selected from a box of shafts my dad had laying
around.  When I walked in, I said, "I'm hoping you can help me.  I
have this bow, but no arrows.  I want to be sure of a few things
before I spend a bunch of money on supplies."  Before we could get to
what information I wanted, the guy said, "We don't see many longbows
here," (which is understandable), "and we won't have any supplies for
it."  Okay, I get that.  "Well," I said, "I mainly need to figure out
the true weight of the bow at my draw length in order to get the right
shafts."  At this point, I expected to get help measuring my draw
length, then we'd string my bow, put it on a bow scale, and off we'd
go.  Instead, I got, "Well, it says 50 pounds on the bow."  "Right," I
said, "but it doesn't say at what draw length."  "Well," he said, "if
you draw it to, you know, about the right amount, it'll be around 50
pounds.  If you draw it more or less, that'll change, so there's no
way for me to know.  I guess if you want to string it, I can draw it
and tell you about what it is..."  This is the point at which I should
have just said thanks and left.  As it is, I talked for another minute
or so, just to confirm that this was as helpful as it was going to

Either this guy did not understand what I was asking, or they did not
have a bow scale (otherwise, why wouldn't he offer that instead of
some guesstimate?).  Either way, this is not archery expertise.
Having heard all that, I didn't even proceed to my next question,
which was whether they had a spine tester for verifying what the
shafts I have are.  The entire experience was very much like buying a
computer or camera at a big box store.  They're fine for reciting
specs from the side of the box, and they probably have an OK
selection, but as soon as you start asking about video chipsets or
f-stops, they have no clue.

Save yourself the trip and avoid All Star Archery for traditional
archery questions.


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