Lady Maria, if this is the way you go about angering people, you may anger me any day of the week. Thank you for your post. Mary Taran >From: "Christine Fink" >To: elfsea@ansteorra.org >Subject: ES - Single Parenting WAS -- ST - Glass Beadmaking Open Studio Night >Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:34:48 CDT >Reply-To: elfsea@ansteorra.org > >Buenos Dias! > >I've watched this thread for the last couple of days. As a single parent >myself, I must comment: > >Lord Caerell: >As Ameline said she meant no offense. She is right about *some* dad's not >getting involved. Children really look up to our lords in this kingdom. Take >Ryan, my son, for example. He worships the ground that the heavy and light >fighters walk on. Unfortunately, their mundane father does not spend any >time with either of them and they are both craving male attention. If you >watch Diane around Phelippe, you can see she just adores him because he pays >attention to her. Ameline just wants to see more of our lords get involved >with entertaining our children. Don't do arts and crafts? Teach them about >the martial arts. At Queen's Champion, the lord running the children's area >(I don't remember his name) taught the children military marches and >strategy...they just loved it! As far as your parenting, you are to be >commended! There are not too many fathers who are willing to do what you >have done and do it as well as you have done. I have always enjoyed the >company of your sons. > >To the Barony: >Please don't come down too hard on Lord Caerell. Being a single parent is >still not easy in this mundane society. Though there have been many >improvements in our mundane society, there are still many social stigmas and >labels against single parenting. I always feel that I am under a magnifying >glass when it comes to my parenting skills bacause I am a single parent. >Therefore, I always feel that I have to prove I am a good parent. I know I'm >not the only single parent out there who feels the same (I used to belong to >Parents without Partners and this was a topic we covered one night and >nearly everyone agreed with these statements). I don't know about Lord >Carell, but I joined the SCA because I wanted an activity we could do as a >family. The SCA has become a way for me to escape these mundane social >stigmas, forget my financial situtation and forget about my ex-spouse. I'm >not saying that being a parent with a spouse is any less difficult, just >that as single parents we are looked upon differently and sometimes more >harshly. > >I aplogize if I have angered anyone, but I it kills me to see our lords and >ladies angry at each other. Everyone here in our Barony has become like >family to me and I care very deeply for all of you. > >Maria > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >Dear Laird Caerell, > I take no offence at your comment YOU are taking up your parental >responsibility.I am sorry you have been hurt by my comment,it is to the >parents who are not helping,.I am making >reference to.In all the children's activities I have done I always see one >to six moms help or at least checking on their kids.In that whole time I >have had three fathers......three, help with their kids.This is a huge >difference in numbers.Kids get so much from male influences I would like to >see more dads helping me.Again I am so sorry if my words caused you to stop >coming to moot,but I feel I can not change how I feel about the lack of male >influence at the MOC level.My office will be up for grabs soon feel free to >take it up and you might see what I mean.If you would like to speak with me >in privet my e-mail is at the bottom.Or call me my number is in the scroll. > > >It is like saying that just because I am not a Woman I can't do a good job >raising my two boys, and that >is BULL! > >Caerell, > I think men are great with kids.That's why I want their input and >help.When men interact with kids they often mind better and listen better .I >hope you can hear the true respect I have for fathers next time I speak and >not take offence. > >Lady Ameline Du Bois - Ameline@generich.com >Elfsea Minister of Children >Protege to Master Richard Fairbourne >Ansteorra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laird Caerell MacDomnaill > To: elfsea@ansteorra.org > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:09 AM > Subject: Re: ES - RE: ST - Glass Beadmaking Open Studio Night > > > I TAKE OFFENSE TO THESE STATEMENTS!!!!! > > As a Single Parent (FATHER) and pretty much the only prarent my two boys >have known, I feel it makes light of what I do every day! > > YES, IT IS VERY SEXIST! > > It is like saying that just because I am not a Woman I can't do a good >job raising my two boys, and that is BULL! > > Please stop using this saying, It grates on my nerves everytime I hear >it. > This is one of the reasons that I don't like Elfsea Moot as I am sure to >hear it from the Minister of Children. > > Yes I agree that many spouses leave the raising of children up to only >one of the parents, BUT it is not always the Father that is running off to >Fighter practice. > > It is like saying that just because I am not a Woman I can't do a good >job raising my two boys, and that is BULL! > > MacDomnaill > Single Parent of Two Teenagers > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ameline Dubois > To: elfsea@ansteorra.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: ES - RE: ST - Glass Beadmaking Open Studio Night > > > Xene said.... > > > > *****WARNING**** EDITORIAL OBSERVATION OF SCA > > FAMILIES***************WARNING**************** > > I have found that many fathers can find time to go to fighter >practice(s), > > but they can't always find the time to watch the children when the >mothers > > want to do something creative (Yes, I'm being sexist, and yes, I do > > communicate this with my own husband). > > ********************************************** > > > > Good Luck and happy bead making. > > Fathers are parents too!!!! > Lady Ameline Du Bois - Ameline@generich.com > Elfsea Minister of Children > Protege to Master Richard Fairbourne > Ansteorra > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > >============================================================================ >Go to http://lists.ansteorra.org/lists.html to perform mailing list tasks. >^..^< ------------------------------------------------------------ We're dancezine with free email accounts! http://www.danceart.com ============================================================================ Go to http://lists.ansteorra.org/lists.html to perform mailing list tasks.