[From nobody Sun Jul 9 15:16:59 2017 Received: from server.indra.com [204.144.142.2] by mailhost.softwareinnovation.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id ACE17F0102; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:32:33 -0600 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1]) by server.indra.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eA14Ufv16928; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:30:41 -0700 (MST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by net.indra.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id eA14SED18431 for h-costume-nopost; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:28:14 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: net.indra.com: majordom set sender to owner-h-costume using -f Received: from cottonwood.desertraven.com ([208.247.17.242]) by net.indra.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eA14SCV18423 for <h-costume@indra.com>; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:28:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from dixie (louisa.desertraven.com [24.6.172.36]) by cottonwood.desertraven.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA26267 for <h-costume@indra.com>; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:28:05 -0700 From: "Michael Sheldon" <msheldon@desertraven.com> To: <h-costume@indra.com> Subject: RE: H-COST: Dogs Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:28:05 -0700 Message-ID: <NEBBIPLLLJKGONMBALBBIEAOCDAA.msheldon@desertraven.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <F286WvqzAoa2JB1ndcx0000224e@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-h-costume@indra.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: h-costume@indra.com X-RCPT-TO: <betsy@softwareinnovation.com> -Poster: "Michael Sheldon" <msheldon@desertraven.com> I would suspect there was a fairly wide variety of collars available, the Leeds Castle museum has a few collars from that era made of leather or metal. Most of the ones they have are quite ornate, but that's hardly surprising. Who'd keep a plain, cheap collar for that long? Collars tend to be: Thin metal (brass, silver) with a leather, velvet or paper lining and a loop/slot clasp like you would put a padlock through. The metal is apparently flexible enough to stretch open to get the dog's head through. Some were very fancy, others were cheaply made. Heavy metal (Iron, Brass) usually with cutwork patterns or raised designs, hinged on one side with clasp opposite. Usually lined with leather. Leather band with metal escutcheons and hardware. Sometimes covered in velvet. These would have been for prized dogs, owned by middle-class to very rich persons. Other collars in the collection are much more utilitarian, and tend to be for serious hunting dogs. This includes a leather collar with several 7cm metal spikes, and a couple of all-metal collars made of spiked links, spikes facing out :). These were to protect the dogs from other predators. I haven't seen any antique leads, but descriptions tend to be leather or chains. My absolute favorite is an 18th C brass collar with an inscription: "I am Mr. Pratt's Dog, King St. Nr. Wokingham, Berks. Whose Dog are You?" Michael J. Sheldon http://www.desertraven.com/ Make a fast friend, adopt a greyhound! -----Original Message----- From: owner-h-costume@indra.com [mailto:owner-h-costume@indra.com]On Behalf Of Susannah Eanes Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 18:31 To: h-costume@indra.com Subject: Re: H-COST: Dogs -Poster: "Susannah Eanes" <oh_susannah@hotmail.com> > ><< tightly wound as most/some Border Collies and Aussies. > > >> > > > >Boy, did you hit the nail on the head with that one. My Gus buddy is so > >hyper, he chases a light beam from a flashlight or laser pointer. > > > >Jackie > >I really like Border Collies and Aussies -- SO cute!, but realized long ago >that I just don't have the time for such an active breed. > >The English Shepherd is an interesting breed -- its advocates claim that it >is the root stock from the later, more specialized herding dogs were bred. >Some _are_ pretty active and need lots of work to do. I'm hoping this guy >is on the more laid back end of the spectrum! I just don't have the time >to do agility or flyball. I missed where this came from --and I just posted a question on the earlytrades list, that maybe some of you may have some insight upon: We have a Walker Hound & a 1/2 Walker-1/2 Blue Tick Hound, that we take to 18c events. The dogs are remarkably well-behaved (maybe because crowds intimidate them somewhat --they can be pretty jumpy at times otherwise, normal for hounds, even well-trained ones!). --Ennyhoo, we have been using a homemade braided leather lead for Lady & a plain rope lead for Banny Boy (aka Banastre Tarleton) & wondered if someone could shed some light on really authentic leashes for 18c hounds. What would a "Houndsman" have used? We made a loop on each end - one for the hand & the other loops around the dog's neck, like a choke chain, and that works pretty well. But we really haven't researched it at all, and don't know if this is correct, or where to start. Thanks, Susannah "We are only the trustees for those who come after us." --William Morris _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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