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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=906421903-14102004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Whopps!</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
elfsea-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com@ansteorra.org
[mailto:elfsea-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com@ansteorra.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Vicki Marsh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:01
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Barony of Elfsea<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Elfsea] Was Kingdom Bids
now OPs & Qs.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=760195401-14102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Ehemmmmm, Caelin, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=760195401-14102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=760195401-14102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Philip
hasn't been elevated - yet....... Unless, of course, I actually have taken a
long winter's nap and Steppes 12th night has already taken place under Their
Stellar Majesties Drakos and Sibri.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=760195401-14102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>But
then, I would have missed it and I wouldn't miss Philip's Laurelling ceremony
for anything in the world!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=760195401-14102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Mistress Xene</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=760195401-14102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>(ex-laurel to HL Philip White, dancer extraordinaire)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Richard Threlkeld
[mailto:elfsea-bounces+xaraxene=comcast.net@ansteorra.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Richard Threlkeld<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:41
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Barony of Elfsea<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Elfsea] Kingdom Bids
--- Question?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>It is possible to bid as
autocrat of an event directly to kingdom without a host group. The kingdom
would become the host group. That is relatively rare in Ansteorra, but, for
instance, <STRONG>Master </STRONG>Phillip White did that with the Known World
Dance Symposium hosted at UTA. This may make the local groups a bit edgy
because the manpower for these tend to come mostly from the local area and
bypassing the local group may cause scheduling problems, burnout, or feelings
that the local work done will not get noticed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>My observation has been that direct bids
without a supporting group do not generally fair very well. If you get a bid
from Elfsea, for instance, you know they have a very good track record and
will probably put on a fine event. If you have Master Bob do it directly, he
would have to convince the powers that be that he had that kind of track
record and they could expect a fine event. It comes down to depth of support.
If the Elfsea autocrat comes down with a contagious illness a week before the
event and is sick during the event, Elfsea has several seasoned autocrats who
could take over. It has trained people to do all the jobs. If Master Bob has a
heart attack the week before the event, the event may have to be
cancelled.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Caelin on Andrede</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
elfsea-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com@ansteorra.org on behalf of Valentyn
Drake<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wed 10/13/2004 3:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Barony of
Elfsea'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Elfsea] Kingdom Bids ---
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think what he's
asking is if someone in the barony can submit a bid that is NOT on behalf of
the barony; where the barony is not the actual host. Or am I totally
off, Synrik?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Richard
Threlkeld
[mailto:elfsea-bounces+donvalentyn=jeffturnerfiction.com@ansteorra.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Richard
Threlkeld<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday,
October 13, 2004 3:17 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
Barony of Elfsea<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE:
[Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">All
event bids must be signed by the Seneschal, but they must be approved by the
financial committee of which the Baron and Baroness together are one member.
The financial committee approval is obviously because of the possible
financial profit/loss. The Seneschal is also a member of the financial
committee but has to look at many other issues like the people available to
put this on, the proposed site, other events we might like to host, etc.
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elfsea-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com@ansteorra.org on behalf of
Synrik<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wed 10/13/2004
3:00 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Rixende de Rouen;
Barony of Elfsea<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Question: Is there any other circumstance, other
than relying on the<BR>Barony's Financial System (Accounts / Seed Money,
etc.), where we (a<BR>Group) would be required to gain the approval of the
Baron and Baroness?<BR><BR>Rixende de Rouen wrote:<BR><BR>> Greetings
Elfsea!<BR>><BR>> At business meeting it was decided that the Barony of
Elfsea would put<BR>> forth a bid for a Kingdom Level
event.<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Elfsea
mailing list<BR>Elfsea@ansteorra.org<BR><A
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