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<DIV>I believe that what you are both saying is correct but the change of
titles depending on the subject is a subtle ways to help the that person
switch gears to the appropriate frame of mind for the subject being
discussed. I know around the list fields I am more likely to call him Don
Robin and in court I would be more likely to call him your excellency. But
then Baron Crandell and I have been around for a long time and we do
thinks in old fashion ways at times. </DIV>
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<DIV>HL Donnel</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/24/2006 8:42:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,
siortomas@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Ah
Your excellency Crandell, <BR>You are correct in spirit but you are
mixing titles with forms of address. If you walk up to Robin of
Gilwell, and want to speak to him on a matter concerning Rapier then you
address him the same, " Your Excellency, may I speak with you" or if you
want to give him an idea what you actually want to talk to him about
then" Your excellency Don Robin, may I have a word with you
about..." The form of address is "Your Excellency", just as it is
for you. Now anyone who actually has multiple titles or even
multiple levels of Rank (peerages and nobility) is not very likely to
correct you if you address them in the less than most correct
manner. After all to have them they have been around for a while
and understand the intent. It is just, as heralds, we should
strive to educate those who don't know in the most correct manner. Of
course when someone new asks me at an event what to call the people with
coronets on their head, I tell them that "Your Excellency" will be right
most of the time and then teach them how to identify the Prince&
Princess if we have them and the Crowns. That is, of course, for
the expedience of the event for the day, and I tell them that I can show
them later, when they are more comfortable being around how do identify
all of the different types of coronets. No need for information overload
at their first event. Yes I know that Duchy's are entitled to
"Your grace" but they still have County's and they understand if Joe
Newguy is calling them "Your excellency". I remain <BR><BR>ever in
service<BR><BR>Sior Tomas<BR><BR>ps... adamantly trying to stuff the
protocol herald back in his box<BR><BR>pps. Your Excellency
Ameline, make it an apple cider and I will be very happy. (Woodchuck
dark and dry) <BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 11/23/06, <B class=gmail_sendername><A
title=mailto:pcrandal@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:pcrandal@sbcglobal.net">pcrandal@sbcglobal.net</A></B>
<<A title=mailto:pcrandal@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:pcrandal@sbcglobal.net">pcrandal@sbcglobal.net </A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">You
may also consider why you are addressing the<BR>person. I will use
Robin of Gilwell as example. <BR><BR>If I am speaking to him regarding
a rapier<BR>subject then I would use Don Robin.<BR>A bardic question
would be to Master Robin, and<BR>Baron Robin would be proper for
general<BR>conversation.<BR><BR>Crandall, Olde Phoole
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