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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thank you so much for your concerns, but as Master Caelin stated, this is a "Drink Contest". That means that this is a <U>competition</U> for brewer, vintners, and others who mix alcohol into fine tasting concoctions (hopefully). This is certainly not a DRINKING contest, or public distribution of alcohol. Announcing a competition is clearly within the charter of the SCA. The only individuals who will be partaking will be the judges and you can be rest assured that they will be over 21. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Also please notice in the announcement, we are not advertising that we are going to be drinking to excess at any part of a scheduled event, but mentioning we are having a party (and this has nothing to do with the Drink Contest) and that adults (as in over 21) may bring whatever they wish since this is a wet site. We will provide additional information on the forth coming announcements which will alleviate these misunderstandings.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Should you have any additional concerns, please feel free to contact the Autocrat or myself as Keystone Advisor privately and we will be happy to answer your questions.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#660000><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'"><FONT color=#660000><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #660000; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'"><FONT color=#660000>Ascelyn of Glentewrde</FONT></SPAN></PRE><PRE><FONT color=#660000><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR:
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<rjt@softwareinnovation.com></I><BR>Reply-To: <I>Barony of Elfsea <elfsea@lists.ansteorra.org></I><BR>To: <I>"'Barony of Elfsea'" <elfsea@lists.ansteorra.org></I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Elfsea] brew competitions in event ads</I><BR>Date: <I>Sun, 1 Jul 2007 17:35:08 -0500</I><BR><BR><META content="Microsoft SafeHTML" name=Generator></PRE></PRE></PRE></PRE></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=533382922-01072007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As the autocrat has stated this is a competition and not a drinking contest. Brewing contest would not really be correct as some of the items are not brewed. Perhaps it is unfortunate that it is easily misconstrued, but she did state it accurately.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=533382922-01072007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>An event does not need to take money at the gate to be an official SCA event. Fighter practice is an official SCA event and I've never seen money taken at one. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=533382922-01072007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Please, as a Keystone, take a bit more accommodating view of this autocrat's first attempt at putting an event together. Encourage and counsel instead of criticizing. And, yes, I should have said this privately to you, but your message was public and deserves a public response.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=533382922-01072007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Caelin on Andrede</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> elfsea-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:elfsea-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lisa Wolfe<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 01, 2007 17:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B> elfsea@lists.ansteorra.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Elfsea] brew competitions in event ads<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">This is directed to anyone who is, has or will be stewarding an event in our Barony or Kingdom. </FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">First let me start by saying "I LOVE A PARTY" just as the next person.<SPAN> </SPAN>I have been known to tie-one-on a time or two or three in my SCA career.<SPAN> </SPAN>(I do have some naked skeletons in my closet.) I am not trying to stomp on anyone's fun, stop the party, cancel any events or tell anyone not to drink at an SCA event. <SPAN> </SPAN>However….</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">If we are accepting money at a gate; therefore it is a SCA sanctioned event and not a private party. <SPAN> </SPAN>If it's an SCA sanctioned event then our group accident insurance comes into effect.<SPAN> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">For your reference, this appeared on our public list, in our event advertisement from the Baron and Baroness and sent by our Seneschal concerning A Lamas Day Tribute, August 17th -19<SUP>th </SUP>, Mustang Park, 3600 Winscott Plover Rd, Benbrook Lake, Ft Worth TX - much deleted and in part:</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Drink Contests:</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN lang=EN-IE style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Beer/ Ale</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN lang=EN-IE style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Mead</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN lang=EN-IE><FONT face="Times New Roman">Concoction</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">By advertising a drink/drinking contest we are setting ourselves up as a group not to be covered under the SCA group insurance should there be any accidents which would be covered by our insurance. <SPAN> </SPAN>Could our Barony, Elfsea, or you personally afford to cover the any property, medical or legal costs if there is an unforeseen accident or happening where we could be held legally liable? <SPAN> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">It is generally a VERY BAD PROCEDURE and heavily frowned upon to advertise a party involving alcohol in an SCA event ad. <SPAN> </SPAN>It doesn't matter whether it's a calendar event or not, whether it's in print or via our e-list.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">By advertising that drink contest, in that way, it was it implies our group, not the individuals, is supplying the alcohol, especially when no rules or any other information is posted on the event advertisement. <SPAN> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">The person who is the steward of the event is by their event warrant considered an officer of the Society and is therefore bound by the rules devised by the Society. <SPAN> </SPAN>The same goes for the Seneschal, all other warranted officers and the Baron and Baronesses of the group sponsoring the event.<SPAN> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">A quick check on-line I found the following:</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">The Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc.</FONT> </SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Organizational Handbook</FONT></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">April 2001</FONT></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Revised December 2006</FONT></SPAN></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face="Times New Roman">Sub Section - Corporate Policies of the SCA, Inc.</FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face="Times New Roman">Page 60 of 65</FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face="Times New Roman">VIII. POLICY ON ALCOHOL</FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face="Times New Roman">Manufacturing, distributing, selling, serving, or furnishing of alcoholic beverages by the SCA or its branches or subdivisions is prohibited within the United States and its territories. </FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face="Times New Roman">The use of any SCA funds for the purchase of potable alcohol, except for such quantities as may be necessary for cooking, is prohibited in the United States and its territories.</FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face="Times New Roman">Officers are not prohibited from serving alcohol; however, it must be done as individuals, and not as part of their official duties as officers. </FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face="Times New Roman">Officers are not prohibited from giving gifts of alcohol; however, it must be done as individuals, and not as part of their official duties as officers. Giving or receiving gifts of alcohol in court is not considered to be part of an officer's official duties. </FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face="Times New Roman">Further ………….:</FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">The Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc.</FONT> </SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Seneschal's Handbook</FONT></SPAN></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Section IV Host Liquor Coverage</FONT></SPAN></B> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">A. Our General Liability provides coverage for claims relating to the incidental use of alcohol at events, but not if we go into the business of selling or serving alcohol. <SPAN> </SPAN>Specifically (and these are the "five deadly sins"), the SCA cannot manufacture, distribute, sell, serve, or furnish alcoholic beverages.<SPAN> </SPAN>Hence, SCA-sponsored taverns are prohibited. <SPAN> </SPAN>Further, SCA funds may NOT be used for the purchase of potable alcohol, except for that needed for use in cooking.</FONT></SPAN></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Reference for the above section: Corporate Policies VIII </FONT></SPAN></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Yes I know I am not an attorney or an accountant, but I am educated enough to know if some accident were to happen, and we, our group, was not covered by the SCA insurance then that leaves the individual persons open to legal responsibility. <SPAN> </SPAN>Somebody is always legally responsible.<SPAN> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">I know we are an honourable society; most of us are intelligent, smart people.<SPAN> </SPAN>But there could always be that one individual who makes a stupid choice and creates havoc.<SPAN> </SPAN>Use your imagination, that's why we have insurance.<SPAN> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">My suggestion is on any future event advertisements to delete any further reference to a drink contest. <SPAN> </SPAN>I know its semantics and just words, but those specific words have legal meanings.<SPAN> </SPAN>I know I personally can't afford to cover those types of costs. <SPAN> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">You could list it as…. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">A brew competition sponsored by (list private household or persons)…</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">A private cordial/brew/mix competition held at the list field after hours/court</FONT> </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Prizes offered by (list persons who would be judges) for private entries</FONT></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Make sure it states over 21 only.<SPAN> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Anything but a drink contest.<SPAN> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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