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<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Xene
here:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>While discussions
that become emotional in content should be taken off-line, and preferably should
be handled in person and face-to-face, this type of conversation is appropriate
for sharing. Even newcomers on the list can learn how to communicate effectively
with grace and kindness. This is how they can learn the behavior that we
classify as "peer-like". The exchange below is an excellent
example.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>We did have a titled
Middle Eastern Dancer and Drummer during our reign, but after we stepped
down, I'm not entirely sure of what happened to it. I usually helped judge it at
Spring Faire, along with other judges that the guild leader and
I invited. Llywelyn judged the Bardic at the same time at the events. I
really only remember doing this for 2 years at Spring Faire, but it may have
been 3.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>HE Armand has a good
point, that he doesn't want to re-start a titled competition as he and Mistress
Ameline are stepping down. Being a "lame duck" or "short-timer" can put a leader
in an awkward position. I know, Llywelyn and I've been
there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>As their successors
have not yet been named, the options I humbly suggest are as
follows:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have the winner of
the competition receive the a title such as "Current Holder of the Jewel of the
Seas" as winner of a guild sponsored competition. Note: *Always* check with the
baronial herald to ensure that the title will not conflict with registered or
traditional titles in kingdom. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2>or</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have a face-to-face
private meeting between the autocrats, *all* the candidates, and Their
Excellencies to discuss how Defender will be run. Agreements should be in
writing, just to be on the safe side. <EM>Non scriptum, non
est.</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>After all, it is
going to be the new B & B's 1st Defender and Investiture as well
as Their Excellencies stepping down.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is a time when
communication, compromise, and caring are so very important, both for
individuals and to the group.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Prior to our
elevation, way back when rocks were soft, and before the heirs were named to the
Escalloped Thrones of Elfsea, one from each set of candidates all journeyed to
Loch Sollier for a dance and music event. We all travelled together in the same
vehicle, and thus had a great time to discuss our hopes, dreams, and aspirations
for the Barony. The timeline for the baronial selection was very similar, so we
had to make some choices as a group as to what we wanted to see for Defender. We
also all agreed not to over-commit ourselves at the event, just in case we
*were* chosen.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Duke Seamus and HE
Maggie decided not to step down until evening court on Saturday. Because of an
over-long belted circle, court was very late in starting. There was no feast, as
Elfsea did not "do" feasts during that time. Everyone was encouraged to have
their own camp dinner. During the day, Llywelyn watched the fighting intently,
as our Defenders and our Baronial Guards were chosen during the tournament. I
sat "in state" next to Their Excellencies Seamus and Maggie and Their Royal
Majesties, and received visitors and presentations which I had my scribe
record for later thank-you notes. Llywelyn and I did this as we knew that court
would be too long for presentations to occur then.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>(That, and Llywelyn
believes that presentations should not take up valuable court
time!).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our investiture was
very, very late, and done by torch-light. It was beautiful. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>When we stepped down
at a Spring Faire, we had the ceremony in the morning, so that Galen and
Allessandre, our heirs, were able to enjoy their first event as the landed
nobles, not as the heirs. Our devestiture was in the hall at Canton,
and not as romantic as our investiture, but equally as emotional and beautiful.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ah,I could go on,
but I have papers to write for grad school........</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>In
Service,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=135410617-09082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mistress Xene
Theriane.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
elfsea-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:elfsea-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tomas Niallagain<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 09, 2007
10:26 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Barony of Elfsea<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Elfsea] Middle
Eastern Dance Competition at Defender<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><SPAN><SPAN>Unto
Your Grace Willow,<BR><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>Your new flier addresses
the source of my concerns. Personally, I do like His Excellency's suggestion
of "Jewel of Middle Eastern Dance" best.Thank you for your consideration and I
avidly look forward to the competition. I remain,<BR><BR>ever in
service,<BR><BR>Sior Tomás <BR></SPAN></SPAN><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 8/8/07, <B class=gmail_sendername><A
href="mailto:willowjonbardc@juno.com">willowjonbardc@juno.com</A></B> <<A
href="mailto:willowjonbardc@juno.com">willowjonbardc@juno.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Dancers
like titles. You should see some of the introductions they<BR>give. Pearl of
the northern seas, jewel of the night, moon of joy<BR>etc. They do not mean
anything or claim any relationship. There can<BR>be many pearls-jewels or
moons. You can see the term "pearl of" use <BR>in many
descriptions.<BR><BR>Usually groups use the words Champion of or a catch
word of title as<BR>in title bard, title artisan etc. Or they make the word
a title like<BR>Defender or Warlord or Protector. If we had a dancing
champion they <BR>would be Dancer of Elfsea. I think, but I am not sure this
is what<BR>the groups that have a "Dancer" use this form. I think they
may<BR>use "Middle Easten Dancer". Do you know what the kingdom uses?
<BR><BR>I will change it to to "jewel of Elfsea". We did bring up the term
at<BR>moot and as no one told us no when we talked about it the
guild<BR>thought it was OK. I will stress that this is coming from the
Middle <BR>Eastern Guild of Elfsea and it isn't a regular affair. Not
all<BR>competition need to be an yearly thing. This is on the same level
as<BR>the Iron chef thing.<BR><BR>I do not understand why we can't reclaim
our Middle Eastern Dance <BR>Championship. As a dancer of Elfsea I wasn't
asked if I wanted our<BR>Dance Competition turned into the Kingdom Dance
Champion and after<BR>working on it for many years I certainly wasn't please
when it was<BR>taken away. With the Kingdom dance contest somewhere else why
can't<BR>we start up the Elfsea's one again?<BR><BR>I would asked the
question why can't we go back and do lots of things<BR>we used to do? If the
people of Elfsea are willing to put them on why <BR>can't they be
done?<BR><BR>willow<BR><BR><BR>________________________________________________________________________<BR>Get
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