I can see your point. I try and stay away from the term earn because it makes it sound like a merit badge and that you are not a peer until you have that badge. I say you are a peer when people see you as a peer, and the title by that time is secondary. I have had numerous Laurels tell me they see me as a peer, and that is the goal I am satisfied with. I may eventually gain the Title, but it is not something I strive for. But I am always willing to discuss a point. I can most oft be found on the fencing field or in the A&S classes. <br>
<br>-Capten Rhys<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Richard Threlkeld <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rjt@softwareinnovation.com">rjt@softwareinnovation.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2">I believe the Crown recognizes a person is a peer as does the peerage circle. However, I believe you earn the title by working on yourself to learn, practice, and become what you believe a peer to
be. You have goals for yourself in the areas of teaching, mentoring, leadership, artistry, and more. To achieve those you learn to think and be a slightly (or in some cases more than slightly) different way. And that change may be what people see when they
say "he is my peer". I'd love to talk with you more about this in person. I'm usually found with a camera in my hands when I'm found at all.</font></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> elfsea-bounces+rjt=<a href="http://softwareinnovation.com" target="_blank">softwareinnovation.com</a>@<a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">lists.ansteorra.org</a> [elfsea-bounces+rjt=<a href="http://softwareinnovation.com" target="_blank">softwareinnovation.com</a>@<a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">lists.ansteorra.org</a>] On Behalf Of Dan Baker [<a href="mailto:lordrhys@gmail.com" target="_blank">lordrhys@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barony of Elfsea<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Elfsea] EXTERNAL: Re: Introduction<br>
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<div>My good Caelin, <br>
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Thank you, and I look forward to meeting them both, as well as the Baron and Baroness of Steppes.
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If I may offer an opinion, and please don't take this as a rebuke, but just an opinion and a way of looking at things. so I start I start this next with IMHO.....<br>
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One doesn't earn a peerage, be it Laurel, Knight, or Pelican. The Crown can not make a peer. It is the honor of the Crown to recognize those individuals who have made of themselves peers.<br>
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Many many years ago I approached my Laurel and requested that he take me as an apprentice. His response was to ask me a question "Why do You want to be a Laurel?" Honestly I was stumped, and I didnt know how to answer that question, I just had not thought
that far ahead. So about 6 months later I came back with my answer and became his student, and later his apprentice, and journeyman.<br>
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"I do not want to become a Laurel. I wish to become what a Laurel is, or should be, a teacher, a student, a mentor, a friend, a leader, a servant, as well as an artist. That is what I seek in an apprenticeship. If in learning these things I ever become a
Laurel, I will look upon that Great Honor as what it truly is, a signpost along the path, not an end goal. That is a path that will take the rest of my life to walk."<br>
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That is my promise to Master Charles Oakley.<br>
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-Capten Rhys<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Threlkeld, Richard <span dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">In Service,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt"> elfsea-bounces+richard.threlkeld=<a href="http://xerox.com" target="_blank">xerox.com</a>@<a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">lists.ansteorra.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:elfsea-bounces%2Brichard.threlkeld" target="_blank">elfsea-bounces+richard.threlkeld</a>=<a href="http://xerox.com" target="_blank">xerox.com</a>@<a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">lists.ansteorra.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Wilkerson, Glen D<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barony of Elfsea<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Elfsea] EXTERNAL: Re: Introduction</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Ah, yet another Spider Robinson fan…</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt"> elfsea-bounces+glen.d.wilkerson=<a href="http://lmco.com" target="_blank">lmco.com</a>@<a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">lists.ansteorra.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:elfsea-bounces%2Bglen.d.wilkerson" target="_blank">elfsea-bounces+glen.d.wilkerson</a>=<a href="http://lmco.com" target="_blank">lmco.com</a>@<a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">lists.ansteorra.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Baker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jay Rudin; Barony of Elfsea< br><b>Subject:</b> EXTERNAL: Re: [Elfsea] Introduction</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal">Did you hear about the Laurel who became King? He was the artist formerly known as Prince....<br>
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Sorry I couldn't help myself...<br>
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Two Laurel Barons? wonderful. I need a step-Laurel, my Laurel has been not playing for about 4 years, So I am kind of an abandoned apprentice. I am apprenticed to Master Charles Oakley<br>
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-Capten Rhys</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Jay Rudin <<a href="mailto:rudin@peoplepc.com" target="_blank">rudin@peoplepc.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;font-size:10pt">For all that the Baron of the Steppes is a Laurel, the Baron of Elfsea is probably our most accomplished expert in furniture. You really are moving to a great area.<br>
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Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal">Sent: May 15, 2011 1:11 PM <br>
To: Barony of Elfsea <br>
Subject: Re: [Elfsea] Introduction </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ahhh Greetings Your Excellency Don Duncan. Now that I will be living in Steppes, I am interested in putting my skills to use. I have made numerous thrones, two Baronies., and both sets of Midrealm Travel Thrones are my work. I will have
to consult with you on what types of projects there might be a need for in that area. Furniture design and construction is what I am apprenticed for.<br>
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-Capten Rhys gen y Arian Lloer</p>
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