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    In general, I bow gains or looses 2.5# for every inch over 28" and
    about 3# after 30".  Usually works the same way for draw lengths
    under 28".    If you have a full arrow you can mark the shaft every
    1" and see what your draw length is.  It will give you a (very)
    rough idea what your bow is @ your draw length.  LOL  Of Course that
    assumes you have the exact string length it was originally set with
    when the decided it was 50#.  A longer or shorter string will
    decrease or increase the draw weight....  I'll be quiet now.  Don
    Sebastian will take good care of you.<br>
    <br>
    YiS,<br>
    <br>
         Wilim<br>
    <br>
    On 20/06/2011 8:19 PM, Randy Shipp wrote:
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      cite="mid:BANLkTinYO6Ltci-K2pjraiWSwGnmwgt2TA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Oh, no problem!  As you say, you were fortunate to
      have lots of folks there, which was really cool to see!
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      <div>I will try my best to be at the Wednesday practice...Sunday's
        are sometimes more complicated.  When is the next Sunday shoot?</div>
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      <div>--Antoine<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:08 PM,
          Sebastian <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          wrote:<br>
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                <div>My apologies for not recognizing or remebering
                  you.  There were quite a few students between the two
                  classes (yea).</div>
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                <div>I can test the bow.  I do not have a spine tester,
                  they are more costly.  I can give you a fair estimate
                  on the spine weight or if you come out Sunday we can
                  shoot them and see how they perform.</div>
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                <div>Sebastian<br>
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                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
                        Randy Shipp <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:randyshipp@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">randyshipp@gmail.com</a>><br>
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                      <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                      Barony of Elfsea <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        target="_blank">elfsea@lists.ansteorra.org</a>><br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                      Mon, June 20, 2011 5:52:42 PM<br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                      Re: [Elfsea] All Star Archery review<br>
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                        I actually did attend your class Saturday (I was
                        the one who came in partway through your first
                        class and sat nearest the door).  Without my
                        bow, and the mystery shafts, of course, it would
                        have been impossible to answer those questions.
                         Still, perhaps I can catch up with you soon to
                        work on this.  I'd very much like not having to
                        get my own bow scale and spine tester at a time
                        when my resources are stretched so thin.  Can
                        any of this be done at the Bedford fighter
                        practice, perhaps?
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                        <div>Thanks very much,</div>
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                        <div>Antoine D'Aubernoun</div>
                        <div><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 20, 2011
                            at 5:37 PM, Sebastian <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            wrote:<br>
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                                  <div>Antoine;</div>
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                                    <div>Thank you for sharing your
                                      experience so that others do not
                                      have to go through the same.</div>
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                                  <div>At the risk of sounding snooty <img
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"> had you
                                    attended my archery class at Kings
                                    College Saturday I would have
                                    answered your questions about your
                                    bow and saved you the aggrevation of
                                    dealing with the compound bow
                                    crowd.  That said I would be more
                                    than happy to help you with this
                                    challenge.  I will be at the Elfsea
                                    fighter practice Wednesday night and
                                    at our archery practice this
                                    Sunday.  </div>
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                                  <div>If I can be of help please let me
                                    know.</div>
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                                  <div>Don Sebastian Frobishire (Arc D'
                                    Or)</div>
                                  <div>Elfsea Hospitaler<br>
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                                        <b><span style="font-weight:
                                            bold;">From:</span></b>
                                        Randy Shipp <<a
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                                        Barony of Elfsea <<a
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                                        <b><span style="font-weight:
                                            bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon,
                                        June 20, 2011 5:23:18 PM<br>
                                        <b><span style="font-weight:
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                                        [Elfsea] All Star Archery review<br>
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                                          Greetings,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Having wasted a significant
                                          portion of my afternoon on a
                                          failed search<br>
                                          for help with my bow, I
                                          decided to salvage some
                                          usefulness from the<br>
                                          exercize and post about my
                                          experience.  Hopefully, this
                                          will help<br>
                                          someone else who might find
                                          themselves in a similar
                                          situation.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          I took my American style
                                          longbow into All Star Archery
                                          (and Marine<br>
                                          Electronics) in Lewisville
                                          this afternoon.  I also
                                          brought four cedar<br>
                                          shafts, randomly selected from
                                          a box of shafts my dad had
                                          laying<br>
                                          around.  When I walked in, I
                                          said, “I’m hoping you can help
                                          me.  I<br>
                                          have this bow, but no arrows. 
                                          I want to be sure of a few
                                          things<br>
                                          before I spend a bunch of
                                          money on supplies.”  Before we
                                          could get to<br>
                                          what information I wanted, the
                                          guy said, “We don’t see many
                                          longbows<br>
                                          here,” (which is
                                          understandable), “and we won’t
                                          have any supplies for<br>
                                          it.”  Okay, I get that. 
                                          “Well,” I said, “I mainly need
                                          to figure out<br>
                                          the true weight of the bow at
                                          my draw length in order to get
                                          the right<br>
                                          shafts.”  At this point, I
                                          expected to get help measuring
                                          my draw<br>
                                          length, then we’d string my
                                          bow, put it on a bow scale,
                                          and off we’d<br>
                                          go.  Instead, I got, “Well, it
                                          says 50 pounds on the bow.” 
                                          “Right,” I<br>
                                          said, “but it doesn’t say at
                                          what draw length.”  “Well,” he
                                          said, “if<br>
                                          you draw it to, you know,
                                          about the right amount, it’ll
                                          be around 50<br>
                                          pounds.  If you draw it more
                                          or less, that’ll change, so
                                          there’s no<br>
                                          way for me to know.  I guess
                                          if you want to string it, I
                                          can draw it<br>
                                          and tell you about what it
                                          is...”  This is the point at
                                          which I should<br>
                                          have just said thanks and
                                          left.  As it is, I talked for
                                          another minute<br>
                                          or so, just to confirm that
                                          this was as helpful as it was
                                          going to<br>
                                          get.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Either this guy did not
                                          understand what I was asking,
                                          or they did not<br>
                                          have a bow scale (otherwise,
                                          why wouldn’t he offer that
                                          instead of<br>
                                          some guesstimate?).  Either
                                          way, this is not archery
                                          expertise.<br>
                                          Having heard all that, I
                                          didn’t even proceed to my next
                                          question,<br>
                                          which was whether they had a
                                          spine tester for verifying
                                          what the<br>
                                          shafts I have are.  The entire
                                          experience was very much like
                                          buying a<br>
                                          computer or camera at a big
                                          box store.  They’re fine for
                                          reciting<br>
                                          specs from the side of the
                                          box, and they probably have an
                                          OK<br>
                                          selection, but as soon as you
                                          start asking about video
                                          chipsets or<br>
                                          f-stops, they have no clue.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Save yourself the trip and
                                          avoid All Star Archery for
                                          traditional<br>
                                          archery questions.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Yours,<br>
                                          --Antoine<br>
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