HNW - Drawn thread/facsimile patterns/mittens

John Ordway ordway at
Wed Nov 5 21:18:35 PST 1997

Nan -- thanks for getting back to me.  Your yellow/gold linen apron sounds 
very nice.What a great way to use up "old" fabric.  Maybe I should check 
out some of MY old tablecloths <g>.
The white towel I'm just finishing up has a row of cross stitch above and 
below the drawn work band -- it's all in white, and in this case it doesn't 
look like "cross stitch" -- it just sort of flows.  I skipped every other 
cluster.  Let me see if I can show you below.
x    x    x    x
x    x    x    x              X=wrapped threads   x = cross stitch on top 
and below
On the fabric the gaps don't look this large.  What color are you planning 
to do the x stitch in?

I'm also impressed by yours and JUDY's e-mail to me -- linen prices really 
have come down!  There is nice linen here for blouses, but the weave isn't 
tight enough for my sewing pieces.  The linen for "sewing" is hard to find, 
but you can't beat the price -- @$3 for a meter at 150cm wide.

Haven't got DH to take me off the digest yet -- he got home too late <g>.
- -----Original Message-----
From:	Nan Bradford-Reid [SMTP:ad-4na at]
Sent:	Wednesday, November 05, 1997 17:51
To:	ordway at
Subject:	Re: HNW - Drawn thread/facsimile patterns/mittens


At 11:56 AM 11/5/97 +0300, you wrote:
>-- you've said you're doing a Viking-style apron in linen.  Wow! Where'd
>you get the linen?  I keep telling everyone here that linen is very
>expensive in the US as it is mostly imported ... true?  Would love to get
>the facts.

Actually, because linen has come back in vogue here as a fashion fabric, it
is once again obtainable and relatively inexpensive.  I found tablecloth
weight linen, 70 inches wide for less than $5/yard, I recently found
handkerchief linen on sale, half-price for about $4/yd.  In both cases, I
bought all they had of the white.

In the case of the Viking apron, years ago my mother gave me a set of
curtain panels in a deep gold that she had had for YEARS.  We had used them
in several places around the country.  Before I got in the SCA I had never
given linen much thought, but dug these out one day and realized they were
pure linen.  This was before linen became widely available again in the
fabric stores.  At first I just made a quickie apron by cutting one of the
panels in two, making straps, etc.  Later I got to really looking at them
and took the quickie apron apart and used dye remover to take it down to a
yellow that could have been achieved with natural dyes and then pulled
threads near the bottom, saving the threads to do the work with.  I take
four threads and wrap them twice in the middle to make a sheaf and tie a
simple half hitch in the back and then go back up to the woven part and
anchor the thread at the top and then start again.  I was thinking about
incorporating some period cross-stitching around this.

> I'm coming at this from the quilting side where copying books and 
>except for fair use (personal, that is) is a complete no-no.

It is the same for all books.  However, in some cases, where the copyright
has expired, as long as someone is not making a profit from it, I think 
will turn a blind eye.  However, these folks should not be quite so open
about it on the net, there are some copyright "cops" who make it their
business to champion the publishing industry, whether someone is getting
hurt or not!  And there is a big difference between "out-of-print" and
copyright expired, they do not mean the same thing.

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