HNW - Hardanger Embroidery

pat fee lcatherinemc at
Mon May 3 11:20:04 PDT 1999

Thank you every one for all the great information.  However I have a slight 
  I have a friend that is just getting started(attenden her first event last 
month). She is an accomplished crossticher and has is working on a Blackwork 
project.  A question came up when we were siting arround embroidering.  She 
asked why she couldn't use adia cloth for her project, we had been 
disscussing linen, evenweave,ect.
My imeadieat answer was "because its not period".  She answered why, and 
show me where.  We went to the realito pages, and I let her read the 
dissision there.  But she is still confussed, and for that matter so am I.  
According to some, adia cloth is an direct desendent of "Berlin Canvas", but 
isn't that too out of our period?
Please, could any answere this question.
M. de Berre

>From: Mike Newell <72123.411 at>
>Reply-To: H-Needlework at Ansteorra.ORG
>To: "INTERNET:H-Needlework at Ansteorra.ORG" <H-Needlework at Ansteorra.ORG>
>Subject: RE: HNW - Hardanger Embroidery
>Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:18:36 -0400
>Dear Pearl:
><From the response I got it would appear that Hardanger is not
>period,although it has roots in cutwork, cutwork it not what I'm interested
>Are  you more attracted to the idea of geometric patterns and countwork,
>but * not* cross stitch? If so, you might really enjoy the German 14th-15th
>century counted satin stitch/brick stitch  work researched and written
>about by Master Richard Wymarc (Timothy J. Mitchell) and Joyce Miller.
>Master Richard wrote a Compleat Anachronist on the subject. His work and
>Joyce Miller's can be found on a website from  the Medieval Embroidery
>Homepage -- there are links into it.
>The work may  be the ancestor of bargello/Florentine work. The stitches are
>worked with what we might think of as counted satin stitch --it's countwork
>and it's geometric, but you entirely cover the surface of the foundation
>fabric, making a sort of brocade. Each stitch covers from 2 to 6 vertical
>threads, in steps of 1 or 2. The webpages show lovely color photos of some
>of the original pieces in museums -- you should go see it just for the fun
>of seeing Neat Stuff!
>SCA:  Kathryn Goodwyn
>'too many centuries...too little time"
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