[HNW] Laurels, Beads, and the Nature of Knowledge

Charlie Cain / Larkin O'Kane larkinokane at cox.net
Mon Aug 18 13:14:22 PDT 2003


I guess she wasn't looking hard enough either, eh?

Larkin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Auna Oncay" <indiauna at cox-internet.com>
To: "Historic Needlework" <h-needlework at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [HNW] Laurels, Beads, and the Nature of Knowledge


> This was asked the other weekend at Gleann Abhann 5th and I told that
> Laurel, I have yet to find the kind of documentation that you are wanting,
> all I have is pictures.  And she replied well then you are not looking
hard
> enough.  I then had to ask her if she had any info or know of a place
> (books, websites etc) that I could go digging through that I may have over
> looked or do not know about?  She replied no and walked off.  Our judges
in
> Meridies are really strict, and there are very few judges who are not
Peers
> or Protégé/Apprentice that are well known for research or have an
expertise
> in some area.
>
> "So long as we love we serve; So long as we are loved by others, We are
> indispensable; And no man is useless while he has a friend."  Unknown.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: h-needlework-bounces at ansteorra.org
> [mailto:h-needlework-bounces at ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of Eowyn Amberdrake
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:51 AM
> To: Historic Needlework
> Subject: Re: [HNW] Laurels, Beads, and the Nature of Knowledge
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:37:32 -0500
>   "Auna Oncay" <indiauna at cox-internet.com> wrote:
> >>From experience it also depends on your kingdom.  Here in
> >>Meridies, they
> >want the documentation to support it.  I really was not
> >bashing Laurels, I was only stating what I have been told.
> >Auriana
>
> It sounds like "the Laurels" or judges in contests [who
> may not be Laurels] may ask the question -- "How were
> beads attached to this kind of object in this period and
> culture?"  It is a valid question to ask, and by asking
> it, no one is "beating up on" an entrant.
>
> Valid answers are
>   "I don't know" (which might just mean you didn't bother
> to look it up, so it isn't a very good answer)
>
> "it is not addressed in the literature, but the method I
> used gives a similar effect" and refer the reader to your
> bibliography (which means  you did at least try to find
> out).
>
> No one will "beat you up" over information that does not
> exist.  That doesn't mean that contest judges won't ask
> the hard questions. Sometimes the right answer is "no one
> knows, yet."
>
> Eowyn Amberdrake, OL, OPel,
> Baroness of Lyondemere, Caid
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