[HNW] Re: Re: Re: cotton fleece by Allison

Radei Drchevich radei at moscowmail.com
Tue Jan 17 13:25:17 PST 2006

Do you wear silk to garden? No.

Do you wear Velvet to go to the butcher? probably not.

do you use $300 a gram raw natural silk as pillow stuffing?  NO. 

So why would you expect the batting in the kings muddy, blood soaked ,
gore covered, War coat to be made of the finest of all things?  If was
ment to be disposed of when it became stained. 

Work Clothes, not Sunday Go to Meeting Clothes.



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: ianruadh at zonnet.nl
  To: "h-needlework at ansteorra.org" ,
  "h-needlework-request at ansteorra.org"
  Subject: [HNW] Re: Re: Re: cotton fleece by Allison
  Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:48:44 +0100

  > You might want to pick up a copy of Mazzaoui's book "The Italian
  > Industry in the Later Middle Ages 1100-1600." She is, by
  profession, a
  > historian who specializes in industrial history---and this book
  > is her research into
  > the medieval industry of cotton manufacture, distribution,
  > import/export, etc.
  > She concludes that cotton was probably a low-class fabric, used
  > for ready-made
  > garments, household items, and sailcloth, based on her study of
  > documents, merchant records, letters, inventory lists, etc. Cotton
  was widely
  > available in the 13th century, I believe that it was being
  > cultivated in many parts
  > of Italy and exported throughout Europe by then. My theory, based
  > in large part on her work, is that the reason cotton is so
  > rarely seen/mentioned in extant records is not because it was a
  luxury item
  > but because it was a common, low-class item. Cotton is sometimes,
  but not
  > often, used as a ground in embroidery. It's uncommon enough that
  > when it is found
  > it is somewhat of a surprise. The magnificent altar frontal of
  > Pope Sixtus IV,
  > housed in Assisi, was discovered to have a ground of evenweave
  cotton. The
  > conservators were shocked when they discovered this, and made
  mention of it
  > in the book that was published of the conservation. Cheers,
  > Gabrielle

  Dear Gabrielle,
  On the death of His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, better
  known as the Black Prince (Prince Edward of
  Woodstock), his body was brought to the cathedral at Canterbury to
  be burried according to the last will and
  testament of the Prince. The place where he was laid to rest can
  still be seen. It is a magnificent tomb. Nearby is
  a reproduction of the tabard, heraldic surcoat, which the Prince
  used on the battle field [the original had become
  to fragile]. Near the crtossing of the church, in a display
  cabinet, is the original. A investigation into the piece
  brought to light that its was made of a outer and an inner lair of
  material, between which one finds a 'stuffing' of
  cotton. This is an item used in a high status enviroment (at this
  point I'm not talking about the way and manner in
  which the garment has been decorated). How do I make this match
  with your remark.

  Yours sincerely:

  Johan Terlouw
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