[HNW] gems

Satine De La Courcel ladysatinedelacourcel at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 22 11:51:26 PST 2006

Thank you, Everyone for your Answers and Guidance....

I have been to the Site of the Coronation mantle that has all the detailed 
Pictures.... Its magnificent....

Sorry for the bother on the Gems, that technique is such a big hit! I just 
wanted to know if it was perod or not...

Thansk again!


>>>I do what I call embroidered gems on my Byzantine Garments however I have
>>>heard it is and it its not beriod... I am at a loss..
>>The only gems I have ever personally examined are those on embroideries 
>>and on eccleasiastical vestments that post date the Byzantine era. (mostly 
>>14th, 15th and 16th century items). However, all of those gems are 
>>attached to fabric with metal mounts. In most cases the gems and mounts 
>>are sewn onto the fabric. Sometimes I couldn't see any stitches, and I 
>>made the assumption that the gems were either glued onto the fabric, or 
>>the mounts were pushed through the fabric. Since I couldn't see the backs 
>>of the items I couldn't tell for sure.
>There is a 10th C Chasuble, of German/Austrian origin where the gems are 
>attached using gold thread. It basically uses the Shisha embroidery 
>technique, subsituting gems for mirrors.
>There is a very detailed article in: Textile Conservation, by Mechtild 
>Flury-Lemberg, Abegg Foundation 1988
>Although this is a religious garment, I think you could extrapolate it's 
>use in secular garments, especially since many Western European 
>ecclesiascial garments had their origins in Byzantine court clothing.
>Jane Stockton - jane_stockton at webcon.net.au
>Barony of Mordenvale, Kingdom of Lochac
>In Prayse of the Needle - http://needleprayse.webcon.net.au/ (personal 
>Historical Needlework Resources - http://medieval.webcon.net.au/ (resource 
>The Needles' Excellency - http://laren.blogspot.com/ (blog)

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