[Hellsgate] Polling tonight!

Ronald Blackman eirik at hot.rr.com
Wed Dec 1 14:12:15 PST 2010 

Jenn, 

The other reply I got from Pug said that they would sit down and discuss our expectations of them and their expectations of us. They did not express and specific information on what those might be.

Eirik Halfdanarson 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hellsgate-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:hellsgate-
> bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Hartlove
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:43 PM
> To: Stronghold of Hellsgate
> Subject: Re: [Hellsgate] Polling tonight!
> 
> Thanks, this was exactly what I needed.
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Ruiz <ruizhorde at yahoo.com>
> To: Stronghold of Hellsgate <hellsgate at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 11:18:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hellsgate] Polling tonight!
> 
> Jenn,
> Here is one candidates response sorry but I have no others in e-mail.
> 
> Mel
> 
> 
> 
> So, what would we do for Hellsgate?  Popular question- I had the
> beginning of
> this conversation with Hellenne, Timor, and Melissenda the other night
> and we
> had some off-the-cuff ideas on how to deal with it.   The best one we
> had was
> taking the baronial guard up there once in the summer and once in the
> winter to
> "collect taxes and quash the whisperings of rebellion we'd been hearing
> about".
> 
> The whole barony "sails" up for one saturday or sunday, we have a huge
> potluck
> picnic at your park and do mini-melees (chivalric) and ship melees
> (rapier) for
> the afternoon, followed by a court that specifically caters to
> Hellsgate needs
> and fun persona banter between BG and HG.  This is a realistic goal- a
> lot of
> other candidates are making noise about going up once a month and we
> just don't
> see that as sustainable with gas at $3/gallon and the kingdom calendar
> as
> crowded as it is (Pardon me while I scoff at outrageous campaign
> promises-
> *scoff scoff*.  Great sentiment, though.).  We'd rather target fewer
> but more
> focused interactions that get you what you need- rallying points for
> your group
> that naturally bring your population together.  That's a goal that we
> can
> reach.
> 
> 
> We also have an idea about getting our guilds and arts communities up
> there.
> You guys have some resources that many guilds down here would LOVE to
> know about
> 
> and have the opportunity to use; the soldier's arts and crafts center
> on post is
> 
> one hell of a carrot to dangle in front of the artists down here to
> encourage
> travel and interaction.  I can see 2-3 BG A&S guild meetings proposed
> up there
> per year.  Maybe only one of them gets a huge turnout... but all three
> would get
> 
> laurels and experts from down here traveling up there where they're
> more
> accessible by some of the local players.  Just like you are asking,
> "what's in
> it for us?" we have to be able to present the benefits of travel to
> people down
> here and that center is a heck of an incentive.  It's been done
> successfully
> before so it's a tested idea- we just need to refine it and repeat.
> 
> The most important thing I think we bring to the table as potential B&B
> is that
> we know where you're coming from and we are ready to listen to your
> ideas about
> what you need.  Let's face it, if you haven't been stationed at Ft.
> Hood it's
> very difficult to grasp the lifestyle an SCAer in that area leads.
> Transient
> population, deployments, influx of a radically differing SCA cultural
> background, the intermittent "well, in MY old kingdom we did it THIS
> way"
> issues, the potential for danger and tragedy for the people you play
> with all
> the time, supporting members who are abroad, the frustration of having
> a good
> idea from some other place that nobody will listen to, integration of
> resident
> retirees and active duty folks, defining award standards for people who
> can only
> 
> be at events intermittently... we can deal with these because we
> understand them
> 
> because I lived it.  And it doesn't hurt that I know a lot  of the old
> timer
> population up there, too- if I need to get the scoop on some issue or
> another I
> can make about three calls and have a very clear picture from very
> different
> local perspectives.
> 
> What would you like to see for help and assistance from us if we get
> chosen?
> 
> Please, please, please... no matter what your take on who would be the
> best
> choice down here- WRITE A NOTE to the crown with your opinion!  The
> danger
> Hell's Gate faces in getting marginalized in the outcome of this choice
> is so
> high that this might be the only way to offset it.  I have NO IDEA who
> chose a
> polling site in far south Austin but it was a HORRIBLE idea; it should
> have been
> 
> in a place where you guys didn't have to drive so far.  Email your
> opinion to
> Ulsted and Ebergardis at crown at ansteorra.org .  This is such a hot
> topic that
> I'm ccing a few of the folks who have asked the same question with our
> answer-
> please share it with as many people up there as you'd like; we haven't
> said
> anything here we wouldn't say in public.  Make sure Keyna and Adrian
> get a copy
> as I don't know if they'll be able to drive all the way down for the
> polling.
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Dieterich and Sabina (who is looking forward to getting to know you,
> too)
> 
> Post Script: It should also be a point of interest that if we are
> chosen to lead
> 
> down here, our favor is not for sale.  It can, however be rented for
> Schoepf's
> bbq pork chops with a side of pickles.  This will be considered the
> official
> dish of Bryn Gwylad for the duration of our tenure and gives the
> populace of
> Hells Gate a certain natural advantage politically speaking (it also
> means that
> we'll be stopping in Belton every time we come back from a northern
> event...
> planning meetings at Schoepfs!!!)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Jennifer Hartlove <jmhartlove at yahoo.com>
> To: Stronghold of Hellsgate <hellsgate at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 10:26:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hellsgate] Polling tonight!
> 
> I'm kind of trying to catch up with anything.  Can anyone tell me what
> the
> candidates think of Hellsgate?
> 
> ~Jen The Coughing
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: SoldierGrrrl <soldier.grrrl at gmail.com>
> To: Stronghold of Hellsgate <hellsgate at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 8:36:08 AM
> Subject: [Hellsgate] Polling tonight!
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Tonight is the polling for the new B&B for BG. If you cannot be there,
> PLEASE write the crown and let them know your thoughts.  PLEASE.  Read
> the candidates' pages, email them, ask those of us who might know them
> what we think.  I know Eirik has talked to several of them, as has
> Mel.  I'm sure the Crown will be taking opinions for the next few
> days, so don't feel that if you can't decide by tonight, you shouldn't
> say anything.
> 
> http://bryn-gwlad.ansteorra.org/candidates/
> 
> This isn't just a random set of people you'll never really see.
> They're going to be our B&B and it's important.
> 
> Polling information is also on the Candidates' page.
> 
> PLEASE take a few minutes to look it over and give input.
> 
> Thank you!
> In Service to Country and Crown,
> Lady Helene Dalassene
> 
> --
> "Whatever their fond sentiments for men and women in uniform, for most
> Americans the war remains an abstraction – a distant and unpleasant
> series of news items that do not affect them personally."- Robert
> Gates, Secretary of Defense.
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