ANSTHRLD - Grant question

[Amy & Bill Morris]

Some non-armigerous awards convey precedence, some do not; and there are
examples of non-armigerous awards that out-ranked simple AoA's in period
times and in other kingdoms.  Where do Ansteorra's non-armigerous awards
fall?  

I'm going to expose my ignorance further and ask another question.  Does
the order of march in Ansteorra exactly follow the Order of Precedence? 
(I have lived and played in 7 kingdoms and 3 principalities, including
Ansteorra's parent Atenveldt, and this would be the first place where
that was so)  Does the order in which a single person's award differ? 
(which is also possible, both middle ages and current middle ages)

As to the posted order.  It says that a citizen of the principality of
Ansteorra who received a kingdom AoA would rank below the Ansteorran who
received who received a kingdom AoA after we became a kingdom.  Isn't
this a mistake.

 

R. Smith wrote:
> 
> On 13 Oct 99, at 22:59, Amanda Lewanski wrote:
> 
> > Why is the Lion of Ansteorra on there at all? It is an award that
> > confers no precedence; as such, it has no place on an Order of
> > Precedence. Only orders conferring precedence should be listed. OPs
> > don't HAVE to show every kingdom order. Placing it at the end like that
> > gives an incorrect impression of the award--and don't give me "everyone
> > knows," lots of people outside the kingdom who might refer to our OP
> > would have no idea. This holds true, by the way, of any other awards
> > conferring no precedence; they shouldn't be listed on an OP. They can
> > appear in a kingdom awards list, which is different.
> 
> Because it is not entirely correct to say that it conveys no
> precedence; it is non-armigerous, which is not the same thing.
> The Lion, and other honors such as the Motley Sash, Queen's
> Rapier, et al, DO convey precedence; the bearer of a kingdom
> honor such as these would come before someone with no awards
> at all in precedence, just as is suggested by the list in question.
> 
> Chandranath Mitra
> Herald, Shire of Mooneschadowe
> 
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