ANSTHRLD - What do we need to know?

Rayburn, Timothy TRayburn at insurdata.com
Wed Aug 18 15:12:07 PDT 1999


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While seperating the exam into a required area and an extended area =
does
basiclly create two exams again, there is something else that is done =
with
this : It gives the new herald a look at what would be expected to =
become an
PaL (Pursuivant at Large).  This might encourage them to come back and =
try
again once they learned some more.

I know that for instance I had heard rumors that the PE exam was a
juggernaut of a beast that people studied for years to master.  When I
finally did get a look at the exam recently, I was suprised at how,
relatively speaking, simple the exam was.  Hardly something you'd study =
for
years at.  Even if it is one exam only in name, I think this could =
encourage
people.

But I could be wrong,

Timothy of Glastonbury


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Richard Threlkeld [SMTP:rjt2 at airmail.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, August 18, 1999 4:50 PM
> To:	heralds at Ansteorra.ORG
> Subject:	RE: ANSTHRLD - What do we need to know?
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> Not a bad idea. It is true that we would expect a PE to know more =
than a
> basic warrant=20
> would require. But we would expect either of them to know certain =
pieces
> of information=20
> very well. So a 75% score for warranting with a 95% for PE would not
> ensure that the=20
> basic information was known. Once you segregate the data into areas =
which
> the warrant=20
> applicant *must* know and stuff the PE must know, but the warrant
> applicant does not=20
> have to know (whew! I complicated that sentence) then we basically =
have
> two tests again.
> =A0
> Caelin
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> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: owner-heralds at Ansteorra.ORG
> [mailto:owner-heralds at Ansteorra.ORG]On Behalf Of Rayburn, Timothy
> 	Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 4:17 PM
> 	To: 'heralds at Ansteorra.ORG'
> 	Subject: RE: ANSTHRLD - What do we need to know?
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> 	This just came to me.=A0 Darius I know you have plans in the works =
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> re-work (or have) the PE exam as well.=A0 So I ask the 50 billion =
dollar
> question : Why have two exams?
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> 	There may be wisdom in creating just one exam, but requiring
> different levels of score on it depending on if the person is trying =
to be
> a Branch herald or PE (Herald-At-Large)
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> 	Timothy=20
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> 	-----Original Message-----=20
> 	From:=A0=A0 marsha.greene at mpan.com [SMTP:marsha.greene at mpan.com]=20
> 	Sent:=A0=A0 Wednesday, August 18, 1999 3:36 PM=20
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> 	Subject:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Re: ANSTHRLD - What do we need to =
know?=20
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> 	Timothy and AElfwyn had some good ideas.=A0=A0 I might add some
> activities that=20
> 	happen during the branch events:=20
> 	*=A0=A0 Be able to organize and run field heraldry for branch =
tournament
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> 	events.=20
> 	*=A0=A0 Be able to organize and be the court herald for courts held =
at
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">While seperating the =
exam into a required area and an extended area does basiclly create two =
exams again, there is something else that is done with this : It gives =
the new herald a look at what would be expected to become an PaL =
(Pursuivant at Large).&nbsp; This might encourage them to come back and =
try again once they learned some more.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I know that for =
instance I had heard rumors that the PE exam was a juggernaut of a =
beast that people studied for years to master.&nbsp; When I finally did =
get a look at the exam recently, I was suprised at how, relatively =
speaking, simple the exam was.&nbsp; Hardly something you'd study for =
years at.&nbsp; Even if it is one exam only in name, I think this could =
encourage people.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">But I could be =
wrong,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Timothy of =
Glastonbury</FONT>
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<BR>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Richard Threlkeld =
[SMTP:rjt2 at airmail.net]</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Wednesday, August 18, 1999 4:50 PM</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">heralds at Ansteorra.ORG</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT>=
</B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">RE: ANSTHRLD - What do we need to =
know?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Not a bad idea. It =
is true that we would expect a PE to know more than a basic =
warrant</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">would require. But =
we would expect either of them to know certain pieces of =
information</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">very well. So a 75% =
score for warranting with a 95% for PE would not ensure that the</FONT> =

<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">basic information =
was known. Once you segregate the data into areas which the =
warrant</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">applicant *must* =
know and stuff the PE must know, but the warrant applicant does =
not</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">have to know (whew! =
I complicated that sentence) then we basically have two tests =
again.</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial">=A0</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Caelin</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">-----Original =
Message-----<BR>
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FACE=3D"Tahoma">From:</FONT></B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma"> owner-heralds at Ansteorra.ORG [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:owner-heralds at Ansteorra.ORG" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">mailto:owner-heralds at Ansteorra.ORG</A>]</FONT><B><FONT=
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<FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Rayburn, Timothy<BR>
</FONT><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Sent:</FONT></B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma"> Wednesday, August 18, 1999 4:17 PM<BR>
</FONT><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">To:</FONT></B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma"> 'heralds at Ansteorra.ORG'<BR>
</FONT><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Subject:</FONT></B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma"> RE: ANSTHRLD - What do we need to know?<BR>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Hmm....</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">This just came to =
me.=A0 Darius I know you have plans in the works to re-work (or have) =
the PE exam as well.=A0 So I ask the 50 billion dollar question : Why =
have two exams?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">There may be wisdom =
in creating just one exam, but requiring different levels of score on =
it depending on if the person is trying to be a Branch herald or PE =
(Herald-At-Large)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Timothy</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original =
Message-----</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">From:=A0=A0</FONT></B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">marsha.greene at mpan.com =
[SMTP:marsha.greene at mpan.com]</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Sent:=A0=A0</FONT></B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Wednesday, August 18, 1999 3:36 PM</FONT><FONT =
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FACE=3D"Arial">To:=A0=A0=A0=A0</FONT></B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">heralds at Ansteorra.ORG</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Subject:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0</FONT></B><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Re: ANSTHRLD - What do we need to =
know?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Timothy and AElfwyn =
had some good ideas.=A0=A0 I might add some activities that</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">happen during =
the branch events:</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">*=A0=A0 Be able =
to organize and run field heraldry for branch tournament</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">events.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">*=A0=A0 Be able =
to organize and be the court herald for courts held at =
their</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">branch.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Hillary =
Greenslade</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">lSubject: ANSTHRLD - =
What do we need to know?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> =
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<BR>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">As we begin to =
rewrite the branch warenting class, I would pose a</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">question to this =
forum:</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&quot;What does a =
branch herald _need_ to know?&quot;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">In =
service</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Darius, Ld =
Tressure</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
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