ANSTHRLD - Question on CD's

Thu Aug 19 14:45:36 PDT 1999

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Quoth the RfS:
3. Required Charges Transparent - Two pieces of official Society armory that
share required charges may consider their Difference of Primary Charges as
if the required charges were not there. This is to avoid penalizing the
slight increase in complexity caused when official armory includes required
charges like the laurel wreath or crown. As an example, Gules, a hammer
within a laurel wreath and on a chief Or three fleurs-de-lys gules would not
conflict with Gules, a mullet within a laurel wreath and on a chief Or three
fleurs-de-lys gules. Required charges always count normally for difference
themselves, this rule only ignores the complexity they add to a design. This
provision may not be applied when comparing official Society armory with any
other armory.

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As such, given the last sentence, if you are comparing official Society
Armory (your groups arms) and someones registered arms (other armory) the
laurel wreath DOES COUNT.

Timothy of Glastonbury

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Debra Poole [SMTP:dpoole1 at airmail.net]
> Sent:	Thursday, August 19, 1999 4:29 PM
> To:	heralds at Ansteorra.ORG
> Subject:	ANSTHRLD - Question on CD's
> 
> Greetings,
>         We are working on our device for our group (thanks to everyone who
> has help us so far)  and I have a question on cd's that will help tell me
> if
> the current favorite has conflicts.  The preposed blazon is: Or in pale
> three escallops inverted and on a bend rising sable a laurel wreath or.  I
> checked the on line ordaniary and found that it will conflict with two
> registered devices unless we receive a cd for the laurel wreath.  It seems
> in my faded heraldric memory that cd's are NOT granted for the addition of
> required charges.  Is this true or did I dream it.  Thanks for the help.
> (P.S. The talk is now of making me acting herald of this group if we ever
> get off the ground.  Somebody shoot me now!!! :) )
> 
> Thanks,
> Mere
> Shirden     
> 
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Quoth the =
RfS:
 3. Required Charges Transparent - =
Two pieces of official Society armory that share required charges may =
consider their Difference of Primary Charges as if the required charges =
were not there. This is to avoid penalizing the slight increase in =
complexity caused when official armory includes required charges like =
the laurel wreath or crown. As an example, Gules, a hammer within a =
laurel wreath and on a chief Or three fleurs-de-lys gules would not =
conflict with Gules, a mullet within a laurel wreath and on a chief Or =
three fleurs-de-lys gules. Required charges always count normally for =
difference themselves, this rule only ignores the complexity they add =
to a design. This provision may not be applied when comparing official =
Society armory with any other armory. 

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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">As such, given the =
last sentence, if you are comparing official Society Armory (your =
groups arms) and someones registered arms (other armory) the laurel =
wreath DOES COUNT.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Timothy of =
Glastonbury</FONT>
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Greetings,
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We are =
working on our device for our group (thanks to everyone who
 has help us so =
far)&nbsp; and I have a question on cd's that will help tell me =
if
 the current =
favorite has conflicts.&nbsp; The preposed blazon is: Or in pale
 three escallops =
inverted and on a bend rising sable a laurel wreath or.&nbsp; I
 checked the on line =
ordaniary and found that it will conflict with two
 registered devices =
unless we receive a cd for the laurel wreath.&nbsp; It seems
 in my faded =
heraldric memory that cd's are NOT granted for the addition of
 required =
charges.&nbsp; Is this true or did I dream it.&nbsp; Thanks for the =
help.
 (P.S. The talk is =
now of making me acting herald of this group if we ever
 get off the =
ground.&nbsp; Somebody shoot me now!!! :) )

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks,</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Mere</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Shirden&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
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