ANSTHRLD - What do we need to know?
Timothy A. McDaniel
tmcd at jump.net
Thu Aug 19 21:37:04 PDT 1999
Hanaper ("Dr Tiomoid M. of Angle" <tiomoid at yahoo.com>) wrote:
> > I assumed that "pursuivant" was a job title rather than a state of
> > being.
>
> Well, it's not your fault -- we've been using it as if it were both.
Since I got active here late in Dathi's tenure, I only recall seeing
it as a job title.
> "Fitzalan Pursuivant Extraordinary" is a job title.
Ah. A name has to go with it, then; nobody in period would have
written "Know ye that I John Blow Pursuivant Extraordinary", but
rather "John Blow Windsor PE", "Thistle Herald", whatever.
> on the other hand, Lord Star has a good point that "Pursuivant
> Extraordinary" has a lot of connotative historical baggage in the
> SCA in general and in Ansteorra in particular, and it may thereby be
> tainted for our purposes.
I say hand the baggage over to the bomb squad -- let them take it to a
deserted field and blow it up harmlessly. "We are not bound by our
past mistakes" and "We can do better" [I presume]. We're winning
against "-ocrat" and even against "autocrat"; "charter" (versus
"scroll") isn't entirely hopeless; et cetera. "Pursuivant
Extraordinary", to my relatively-new eyes, is rare enough in Ansteorra
that we can do "the right thing" ... when we discover what it is
... or at least a righter thing.
(By the way: the SCA College of Arms no longer does "Lord / Lady
<heraldic title>". Unlike Lord Lyon, none of our heralds get to try
miscreants, or get people charged with treason if they diss us while
we're wearing a tabard, or anything cool like that. Since that
change, territorial names are now registerable as titles.)
> Do PE/PaLs wander the Earth like Kane in "Kung Fu", doing good,
> righting wrongs, and expunging ugly armory?
That's what I was figuring. That's what I'd like to do. (I suppose
if we followed the medieval pattern of friars, we'd need the approval
of the local bishop^Wregional herald to preach in their territory.
Let's not.)
> Or do they cover a particular territory's groups-sans-pursuivants?
Well, if they had a fixed jurisdiction, wouldn't they be in ordinary?
Daniel de Lincolia
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