ANSTHRLD - Precedence Question

[Donald Riney]

OK Landed nobility actually ranks above the peers in the order of march and 
cout ranks just under the peers. Visiting ladeds get sandwiched in between 
the peers and the native landeds. Visiting court barony? Well I believe that 
would just be Court Barony with the rest of em. As to the question of Vicars 
and Vicares  hmmm Etien makes a very good point. let me ask some one who 
Might know!

Darius



>speaking of court baronies, where do foreign court baronies fall?  In
>particular where do those who received a court barony before grants were
>given fall?  and where do those who received a court barony without a
>grant fall?
>
>Amanda Lewanski wrote:
> >
> > Donald Riney wrote:
> >
> > > I believe since they are siting in the place of a Landed noble they 
>would
> > > maintain the same precedence as the other landeds. this is of course 
>because
> > > the Barony maintains it's precedence and they represent it.
> >
> > Actually, upon thinking about it, I think that Obelisk is right and the 
>title of
> > Vicar and Vicaress would convey no precedence unless specified. It is 
>not the
> > precedence of the Barony which is marching, or being listed, or 
>whatever; it is
> > the personal precedence of the individual.
> >
> > Which leads to a related question--am I wrong, and *is* it the 
>precedence of the
> > Barony, rather than personal precedence, which counts for landeds? Do 
>they march
> > in order of founding of the Baronies, or by their date of landedness? If 
>in order
> > of Baronial founding, then Darius is probably right.
> >
> > However, I get confused when I take this any farther; for example, Vicar 
>and
> > Vicaress is a temporary duty, but then, technically, so is being a 
>landed Baron
> > or Baroness, so I don't know what bearing that would have on things. Are 
>landed
> > folk *always* given a Court Barony upon stepping down? If so, being 
>landed means
> > you'll never be below that level of precedence, while being a Vicar 
>would mean
> > nothing of the sort. Which may imply absolutely nothing at all relevant 
>to the
> > question.
> >
> > Oh, well. Further mulling may cause other thoughts to float up from the 
>deeps
> > (although my deeps are getting shallower by the day, seems like), but I 
>thought
> > I'd throw this thought out for consideration before I forgot it.
> >
> > --Alisandre (with my two cents, we have four now, and you know what 
>that'll buy)
> >
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> >
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