ANSTHRLD - Conflict check requested (Eleanor)

Teceangl tierna at agora.rdrop.com
Thu Apr 20 01:09:57 PDT 2000


> I know that Fleur-de-lys are stylized Lilies.  Do they conflict check
> against them?
> 
> If they conflict check against, are lillies subject to Fleur-de-lys
> precedents?
> 
> If they are subject to such, then this would run afoul of the reservation of
> 3 or more gold fleur-de-lys being reserved for France, right?

Thanks for the call, Timothy.  Unlike Daniel, I did go check precedents.  :P
I found this back in Bambi's stuff, nothing since:

   [One commenter] has shown there was apparently a difference noted by
   heralds in period between the stylized fleur-de-lys and the natural
   lily flower since the arms of Eton College contain both used in a
   cadency context. Under the new rules this is enough to determine that
   a difference of type may be granted, assuming no real possibility of
   confusion. (LoAR 17 Jun 90, p. 4)

So no worries there.  

No problem of conflict (bends and bends sinister are X.2. different), but
I thought you might want to know about this one:
Rowan le Beau - March of 1998 (via AEthelmearc):
Argent, on a bend cotised azure a lily palewise Or between two others argent.
It's my personal policy to notify clients of such things as exact outline and
mirror-imaging, even though it has nothing to do with conflict.  (Keeps 'em
from coming back to me and saying, "I just saw my EXACT device only in
different colours!  Why didn't you TELL me???")

It's clear.

- Teceangl
-- 
                Gwell car yn y llys nag aur ar fys
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