ANSTHRLD - Galen's Augmentation

Richard Threlkeld rjt at acm.org
Fri Jan 21 11:04:55 PST 2000


Do you have the full charter? Though it ended with the words
given, I was fairly sure I heard earlier statements that
specified it was to be in canton.

Caelin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-heralds at ansteorra.org [mailto:owner-heralds at ansteorra.org]On
> Behalf Of Darius and Monica
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 10:58 AM
> To: heralds at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: ANSTHRLD - Galen's Augmentation
>
>
> Well acording to the charter read in court, (cliped from Stars posting)
>
> "We charge and command <him/her> to consult with Us and Our College of
> Heralds for the exact form and to speedily register such Augmentation."
>
> The Crowns words as read in to Law at Coronation did not specify the
> form of the augmentation. So it would seem he can register what ever is
> deemed apropriate by the college. Yes? no?
>
> Darius
>
> Amanda Lewanski wrote:
> >
> > Richard Threlkeld wrote:
> >
> > > If I remember correctly, the order from the court
> > > specified that the augmentation was to be in canton.
> > > Can you put it anywhere else given that order?
> >
> > Well, here you touch on the great disagreement that came up
> eons ago when Jan's
> > augmentation was awarded. The Crown specified the form of the
> augmentation, and
> > Tadhg rather vehemently disagreed, saying the Crown had the
> right to bestow the
> > award but not to specify what form it should take. He stepped
> down as Star the
> > night the augmentation was given (later reinstated), so
> strongly did he feel.
> >
> > I don't recall if the point was ever clarified. We were busy
> planning weddings
> > and such, and when we got around to registering the
> augmentation years later, we
> > registered the form the Crown specified (which is what we liked
> anyway) and so
> > the scroll and augmentation agree, and nothing more was said.
> >
> > But it's a good question. Old monarchists that Jan and I are,
> we always thought
> > the Crown should be able to grant/specify the form as well as
> the right to the
> > award, but SCA practice seems to differ. Was there ever any
> formal statement of
> > this? Daniel?
> >
> > --Alisandre
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