ANSTHRLD - Device Advice

[Seamus MacInnerighe]

It is a period rose with five petals...


On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 00:09:36 -0500 (CDT) "Timothy A. McDaniel" <tmcd at jump.net> wrote:
>"Per bend sinister flory counter-flory" was registered in 1996
>(Madeleine Moinet dit Boismenu|9607A), and a line of division
>f-c-f has been registered a couple of times before, and the 7/96
>device was registered without comment, I presume it's
>registerable.
>
>    Per chevron flory counter-flory vert and argent, a torc and
>    a rose within a bordure counterchanged.
>
>As a medieval style note, purely advisory: I have the impression
>that torcs didn't exist as objects by the time of the invention
>of armory -- well, torcs existed (because museums have a few) but
>I thought they were out of style: not being made and perhaps not
>being worn.  If I'm remembering that right, it would be pretty
>much impossible to see a torc on medieval armory.  Mind you, it's
>registerable (Period Artifacts, which I'd bet is in RfS VII).
>
>As another style suggestion, if I may: vert was quite rare in
>medieval armory, and when used it was either for things that were
>naturally green (trees, for instance) or tended to be used with
>designs that were fairly common otherwise.
>
>Another thought: there's not much room for an object above the
>top of a "per chevron" division.  (In early period, per chevrons
>and chevrons were drawn steeper, making it much harder.)  The
>usual period arrangement would be "two and one", meaning two
>objects on the top half of the field and one on the bottom half.
>
>While it's SCA-registerable (assuming no conflict), a combination
>of a vert section, f-c-f field division, a torc, and two items in
>pale makes this far from period style.  If the client is amenable
>to suggestion ("look into my eyes ... give the heralds all your
>money ...") and wants medieval-style armory, they might consider
>some redesign.
>
>I assume and hope that the rose is a heraldic rose with five
>petals (other numbers are known in period, but five was pretty
>usual), and not depicted as the modern garden rose with lots and
>lots of petals in a clump.
>
>Daniel "probably I hope too much" de Lincolia
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