ANSTHRLD - Patronymic sources

[Richard Culver]

>Since a lot of people have used and suggested "sunu", we are looking
>forward to your research with great antici-


   I need to hit a few more sources (charters, letters, etc.,) but the 
overwhelming usage in the ASC is the "-ing" element.  Yes there are examples 
of "Eadwardes sunu" or "Æþelredes dohtor", but these are merely designators 
when used in context.  Essentially the genatives in this case can be 
replaced by the genative pronoun "his" (i.e.: "his sunu ond dohtor", both 
which occur often).  In a true patromyn, you can do this.  Rædwald His sunu 
does not make any sense in this context.  When you see the previous 
construction it is usually in this pattern: "Ælfric 7 Rædwald his 
sunu"--"Aelfric and his son Raedwald".
   The only time in the ASC I saw The split patronym being used as such was 
applied to two people Anlaf and Rægnald.  In these instances it appears the 
attempt at the patronym is strictly a literally transliteration of the 
Scandinavian patronym (neither of which I have handy right now).  But I 
believe the ASC year cited is in the 800's and Anlaf and Rægenald are really 
Ófalfr and Regnaldr (possibly not the exact Norse construction).
   Despite these all the English geneologies still retain the "-ing" 
element.
   Therefore my hypothesis would be the "sunu" and "dohtor" elements really 
could be only applied to someone living in England sometime during or 
immediately after the Danelaw and the sucession of the various Scandinavian 
kings.  Anyone cultural and tribal English would use "-ing" until such time 
(which I have yet to even guess at) as the influence of such Nordic 
patronyms became the norm in the culture.
   Still working on what is appropriate for an English woman of the age.

  Any of this make an sense from which to build?  As I said I think the 
usage prior to Scandinavian influence has to do with the context of the 
source from which we derive the patronym.

Godspeed,
Cyniric

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