[ANSTHRLD] Re: [ATH] Re: [artheralds] Answering questions

tiran tiran at canada.com
Sat Jun 23 06:31:34 PDT 2001


I must say that I agree with Herr Tilke. Many times you have helped me and others
here on the An Tir list (we know we scan always count on you and a couple of
others). The one occasion that a comment to me could have been read as a
chastisement (I didn't take it that way) you publicly apologized to me, even though
I hadn't taken offence. I think that some poor person needs to remember that tone of
voice doesn't carry to email and that you tend to read your own feelings into often
innocuous comments (and for that matter what ever happened to inquiring nicely to
the intent before flipping out, a step all to often forgotten). If I read Teceangl's
statement correctly the person who lectured her was not even the person to whom the
original post was in response to. If this is the case, (and you can read what ever
tone you like into this one) Piss off and get a life. And if you have cost us any of
Teceangl's aid and teaching, I will personally track you down and beat you to death
with a Fox-Davies. And I mean this in the nicest possible way.

Tiran mac Iomair
Avacal

> Teceangl,
>
> as far as _I_ am concerned you are doing just fine.  I for one am grateful if
> when you add where I can find the information in the future, 'cause, even though
> I am not a "novice" Herald anymore, I am still learning constantly :)  As for the
> person who ripped into you - well, ya can't please all of the people all of the
> time...
>
> --
> Für Liebe und Ehre,
>
> Herr Tilke von Lehe
> "Daring ideas are like chessmen moved forward. They may be beaten, but they may
> start a winning game." -- Johann Wolfgang Goethe
>
> Teceangl wrote:
>
> > An open query to the list:
> >
> > Recently, I responded to a posting on an heraldic mailing list I
> > subscribe to (this narrows it down not at all - I subscribe to every
> > SCA heraldic mailing list I know of) with pointers to the locations
> > in the AH/RfS/Laurel Precedents/Laurel Education articles/mundane sources
> > where the poster might find the answers I gave, and pretty much said,
> > "in future, you may look here for answers".
> >
> > I got pulled into private email and ripped for it.  I was told that I
> > made the person asking the question look too stupid to have checked other
> > sources first (the poster had not said anything about having looked anywhere)
> > and that I made the poster look like a pest.  The private email accused me
> > of toning my message in a "don't bother asking in the future" manner.
> >
> > I'm wondering if I come across wrong when I address questions as though the
> > poster is looking for not only the specific answer, but perhaps trying to
> > learn something.  Should we who reply to questions keep our answers to
> > "yes" and "no" rather than actually trying to educate?  Should we discount
> > the number of people lurking-to-learn who gain useful information with
> > references to available sources which will not only answer the question at
> > hand, but allow people to find answers in the future?
> >
> > If I sound hurt, I am.  I thought folks were on these lists to learn, not
> > just to have other people do their work for them.
> >
> > - Teceangl
> > --
> >           Fill your mouth with toothpaste and quack like a duck.
>
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