ANSTHRLD - conflict check an advice please
Timothy A. McDaniel
tmcd at jump.net
Sun Mar 25 17:57:19 PST 2001
Anézka z Rozmitála / "Kate Rayburn" <anezka at crosswinds.net> wrote:
(Accented characters often don't survive in e-mail. I suggest Da'ud
notation or Anglicization.)
> It appears to me that the following might be a conflict:
> Pily bendy sinister argent and vert, a rose sable barbed and seeded
> or. -- Aonghus Lochlainn of Loch Fyne (Dec 95)
When you're citing a potential conflict on a mailing list, please give
blazons for both designs. People often don't have the previous mail
to hand to be able to compare blazons. Fortunately, I haven't
downloaded mail to home yet (I'm telnetted to my ISP from work), so I
still have the original design:
becky demonja <wyrdling at swbell.net>
Would like help with conflict check an advice on a badge idea.
Pily bendy argent an sable a heraldic rose sable
the rose is in the argent upper dexter corner
(By the way: on armory, roses are assumed to be heraldic unless stated
otherwise. You can have "a garden rose", though they are utterly
unknown in period armory, but it gets no difference from a heraldic
rose. Just to make sure of position, you can say "in dexter chief a
rose sable", but that's what I'd assume without an explicit
statement.)
Anyway, for
Pily bendy argent and sable, [in dexter chief] a rose sable.
versus
Pily bendy sinister argent and vert, a rose sable barbed and
seeded or. -- Aonghus Lochlainn of Loch Fyne (Dec 95)
> I see one for the field, but I don't believe there is an additional
> one for it being barbed and seeded.
Right.
> I also am assuming that the position of the rose is forced due to
> contrast so you don't get one there either.
Right. Stated more fully: Aonghus's rose is in the center of the
field, because a sable rose is visible against a part-argent /
part-vert field. The other design does indeed have a forced change of
position for the rose (sable-on-sable is right out), and indeed we
give no CD for forced change of position.
So there's a conflict. Thanks for finding it!
Daniel de Lincolia
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