[ANSTHRLD] Baronial Coronets

Tim McDaniel tmcd at jump.net
Fri Sep 14 20:36:30 PDT 2001


On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Ryder, Brent <BRYDER at compucom.com> wrote:
> I need a quick response on this. Last night I was asked why we only
> allow 6 points with pearls on the Baronial coronet instead of up to
> 12.  Does anyone have a good reason for the limitation?
>
> In searching through the books I have, all the references I have
> come across show the english Baronial coronet to have six point and
> the pictures show 4 visible from the front which means that the
> front center of the coronet is not a point although this is what I
> seem to remember seeing most around the kingdom.
>
> Let me know what you all remember about this. I need to get back with
> the person this morning.

Um, sorry for the delay.  From SCA Heralds':

    Message-ID:  <20010915015616.63121.qmail at web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
    Date:         Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:56:16 -0700
    From: Nigel Fleur-de-Lis <semydelis at yahoo.com>
    Subject:      Re: [SCAHRLDS] Coronet
    To: SCAHRLDS at LISTSERV.AOL.COM

Quoth Roll&Carry:
> I once looked into when England introduced standardized coronets and
> concluded it was strictly a 17th century innovation. I don't recall
> anything more specific.
>
> But seriously, there are modern texts which cheerfully lay out
> various systems of coronets of rank for different countries. See,
> for example, Neubecker pp. 178-179.  I don't know when these systems
> were implemented, or even if they are anything other than flights of
> fancy.  I strongly suspect but cannot prove that any such system is
> post-period.

I've actually had to do some research into this subject.....



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