[ANSTHRLD] name check

[Andrea Hicks]

Leslie Rose wrote:
>
> Thanks Griffin,  for all your help.  You're services will be missed.
>
> Oh, by the way, how do I document something like that?
>
> Catarina

Hi Catarina,

I cannot find anything on <Rosalyn>.  Withycombe doesn't mention
Rosalyn, nor does Talan's article Feminine Names from Reaney and Wilson
nor other articles at the SCA heraldry site or Academy site.
Hopefully others can find documentation. for <Rosalyn>.

St. Gabriel Report 2269 gives a bit of information on the name *similar*
to Rosalyn:
<Rosalinda> is a form of <Rosalind>, a late period English name probably
derived from the Old German name <Roslindis> [1].  The fact that its
roots
are Germanic does not mean that the name is more likely in Germany.  We
have found no evidence of any form of <Rosalind> in use in Germany
during
your period, and since your byname is clearly English, we'll focus our
efforts on that naming pool.

We find <Roslindis> recorded in France in the 9th-10th centuries [2],
but
we have no citations of the name in England.  The first example of any
form
of the name that we find in England is in a poem by Edmund Spenser,
published in 1579 [3].  It was later used by Shakespeare in "As You Like
It" (published 1599) and probably became popular as a result of the
popularity of the play [1].  We do not believe that any form of the name
was used in England during your period, and accordingly we recommend
that
you choose another name.

References:

[1] Withycombe, E.G., _The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian
Names_,
3rd ed. (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1988), s.n. Rosalind.
Withycombe
remarks that the precise form <Rosalinda> is Spanish in origin; we have
not
found any pre-1600 examples of <Rosalinda> in Spain.  It is possible
that
<Rosalinda> is strictly a modern form; although the late English forms
<Rosalind> and <Rosalinde> might have been recorded in Latin documents
as
<Rosalinda>, we find no such citations.

[2] Morlet, Marie-Therese, _Les Noms de Personne sur le Territoire de
l'Ancienne Gaule du VIe au XIIe Siecle_, three volumes (Paris: Centre
National de la Recherche Scientifique, 1972), I:139b, gives the examples
<Roslindis>, probably 9th or 10th c., and <Roslinda> 916.  These are
Latinized forms; they probably reflect a spoken form of <Roslint> or
<Roslind>.

[3] Spenser, The Shepheardes Calender (London & New York:[Chiswick Press
for] Harper & Brothers, 1898, originally published 1579).  The entry for
January begins: "Colin clout a shepheardes boy complaineth him of his
vnfortunate loue, being but newly (as semeth) enamoured of a countrie
lasse
called Rosalinde...."
End of Report

Bardsley s.n. Hatter shows <le Hatter> and <le Hattere>in 1273, <le
Hattare> in 1301, <Hatter> 1379 and 1618.

Hope this helps.
--
Andrea / Maridonna