[ANSTHRLD] Name documentation request - Padraig Burke

[Christie Ward]

>Can anyone document this Irish/English name construction for the son of
>Vicountess Katherine Mariana O'Malley?

Borek, I mined these from the Academy of St. Gabriel...

::GUNNVOR::

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Concerning the Names Patrick, Pádraig, Patricia, and the Like
by Josh Mittleman, Steve Roylance, and Pedr Gurteen
http://www.medievalscotland.org/problem/names/padraig.shtml

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Academy of St. Gabriel Report #2088
http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2088+0

"<de Burgo> is an early, Latinized form of the surname that was <de Burgh>
or <Burke> in English and <Burc> or <a Burc> in Gaelic [5, 6].  <Cecilia de
Burgo> is a perfect choice for the early end of your period, though this
form probably would only have been used in writing.  The spoken form at this
point might have been <Cecily de Burgh> (the surname pronounced \d@
BOORKH\, where \@\ represents the sound of the <a> in <soda>, \OO\ in
pronounced as in <fool>, and \KH\ represents the raspy sound of the <ch> in
the Scottish word <loch>).  By the 14th century, the English name would
probably have been <Cecily Burke>.  The same woman might have been known in
Gaelic as <Si/le a Burc>. ...

[5] Cournane, Mavis, Vibeke Dijkman, Ivonne Tummers, ed., "Anna/la Connacht"
(WWW: CELT: Corpus of Electronic Texts: a project of University College,
Cork, Ireland, 1997).  For <Sile>: ss. 1530-21, 1531.12.  For forms of <de
Burgo>, <Burc>, <a Burc>: 1232.3, 1248.13, 1256.5, 1362.7, 1419.33, 1435.9,
1421.18, 1536.18.   http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G100011/

[6] Tompsett, Brian C., "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data" (WWW:
privately published, 1994-1998).  Accessed 1 December 1998.
http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html"

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Academy of St. Gabriel Report #2305
http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2305+0

"[17] When non-Gaels were mentioned in Gaelic-language records, their names
were rendered in Gaelic.   Individual elements were converted to Gaelic
equivalents and the overall structure was adapted to Gaelic naming customs.
For example, we find the name <Uater mac Dauid a Burcc> recorded in the
Annals of Connacht in 1398 (entry 1398.15).  This man was probably English
and was known to his own family as <Walter, son of David Burke> or simply
<Walter Burke> [18]. You can see by this example that English names, when
rendered in Gaelic, can change dramatically; although the two languages used
the same alphabet, they used very different spelling systems that reflected
the same sounds in different ways.

[18] Reaney & Wilson, s.n. Burke, says, "Burke is a very common Irish name
which derives from the family of <de Burgh>.  <William de Burgo> went to
Ireland in 1171 with Henry II and later became Earl of Ulster."  Obviously,
earlier in your period, these families would still have a strong Norman
identity; by the end of your period, they likely thought of themselves only
as Irish."

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Academy of St. Gabriel Report #2469
http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2469+0

"If you choose this route, you'll want to use a Gaelic given name.  You can
find a list of Irish Gaelic women's names used in your period on the web
[10]:

  Index of Names in Irish Annals: Feminine Names
    http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/

If you decide you prefer an English or Anglo-Irish name, then you should
choose an English given name.  We have a number of articles on English names
available at:

  http://www.panix.com/~mittle/names/english.shtml

...

[10] This list also contains examples of the names of Anglo-Irish women
recorded in their Gaelic forms.  For example, the woman recorded in 1364 as
<Mairgreg inghen Uater A Burc> 'Margaret, daughter of Walter Burke'
was probably known in English records as <Margaret Burke>.  If you select an
English name and you'd like to know how it might have been recorded in
Gaelic, or vice versa, please write us again."

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