[ANSTHRLD] Question about 3 Kings Heraldry
Tim McDaniel
tmcd at panix.com
Thu Oct 24 21:00:55 PDT 2002
Got some answers about arms for Henry the Lion.
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My initial idea: be anachronistic. Quarter Bavaria
Lozengy bendwise azure and argent.
and Saxony
Barry sable and Or, a crancelin vert.
(A crancelin is a bend engrailed on the upper edge the points
trefly; it is usually enarched.)
both probably from after his time.
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From: dwfsmith at guernsey.net (David Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.heraldry
Subject: Re: Henry the Lion's arms?
Date: 24 Oct 2002 03:55:26 -0700
Message-ID: <748e9f13.0210240255.66c8cf80 at posting.google.com>
'Gules two lions passant guardant or' according to 'Royal Heraldry' by
the Pinches. He is popularly supposed to have adopted them from his
father-in-law Henry II of England. The arms are better known as those
of Brunswick and reappear in the English royal arms with the
Hanoverian succession.
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:10:38 -0700
From: Julia E Smith <julias at stargate.pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Arms of Henry the Lion?
To: SCAHRLDS at LISTSERV.AOL.COM
I was just about to skip over this, and then I decided to look and...
what do you know? He had a seal (depicted on p. 12 of Wagner,
_Heralds and Ancesters_), "<Field>, a lion rampant." Of course, the
tinctures are a mystery. There are several civic coats of arms that
theoretically have something to do with him (at least the folks who
recorded the arms assert so): on them the lions are either gules (one
each argent and Or) or azure.
Dunno if there are sources that give a blazon for him.
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