[ANSTHRLD] Use of "Thane"/"Ring Thegn"
Zodiacus Herald
zodiacus at ansteorra.org
Mon Dec 29 14:02:51 PST 2003
Etienne de St. Amaranth wrote:
> Any heraldic history buffs on the list who remember what the Ring Thegns
> were, were intended for, who might have been members, etc.?
My first guess is, you know, that it's an order for fans of Thomas
Covenant. Or Beowulf, I suppose.
Aaaanyway. Seriously now. Here's an email extracted from Stefan's
Florilegium:
Subject: RE: ANST - Awards and such
Date: Tue, 19 May 98 05:43:15 MST
From: Chris and Elisabeth Zakes <moondrgn at bga.com>
To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG
>I know nothing about Ring Thegn. It is an order name
>registered to Ansteorra. If it was a household thing,
>I dunno why it's there.
Ring Thegns are/were a Principality of Ansteorra award from the days of
Sean and Katarina. (They originally wanted to jist use "Thegn" but the
heralds wouldn't let them.)
IIRC, it was for service to the Prince and/or Princess, and therefore
styled as "Ring Thegn to House ______" to specify which Prince/Princess
was served.
-Tivar Moondragon
Ansteorran fossil
And another:
Subject: Ring Thegns
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:28:42 -0700
From: Lee <enaz at ih2000.net>
To: Fitzmorgan at cs.com
Good misty morning to you, Robert,
from Tessa and Simonn,
Ahhhhhhh, history! :)
Thegns were a Principality of Ansteorra form of notice, established to
name individuals who had been of particular assistance to the Prince or
Princess and/or to Ansteora (spelled with one "r" then) in Their
Highnesses' principality reign.
Prince Sean McFflamn and Princess Katarina von Allysin (probably errors
in my spelling here; it's been a very long time...) presented badges in
the form of rings, about two inches in diameter, which could be worn
suspended from a belt or lanyard or ribbon, as one chose.
I believe His Highness initially referred to companions as "Ring Thegns"
to Ansteora. (r)
Assistance which Their Highnesses deemed worthy of notice came in forms
such as communications, advice, establishing methods and traditions,
serving their persons, providing Their garments, Their items needed for
colorful courts; also council, confidentiality, encouragement for Their
Highness's stations in the fledgling Principality. Similar to the
responsibilities held today by Royal Enterouge and GOofS.
The particular individuals you have listed hailed from across Ansteora
at the time: Bjornsborg, Bryn Gwlad, Bordermarch, Stargate and Steppes.
Somewhere, we probably have stored away some official writings about
Ring Thegns, if those things have not gone the way of dust and ashes.
(We had a house fire in 1985.) If we run across them, we'll get back in
touch with you.
Regards,
Tessa &
Simonn
Chandra
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