[ANSTHRLD] Squires, Achievements of Arms, and Ranks (Oh My!)

[BOWERMAN, MATTHEW S. (JSC-DV1) (USA)]

Could you not wear their livery, and have their badge over your left breast?
No need to wear there actual arms.  You could also use a basic field
division using their primary tinctures on your shield.  I know I used to
have a green field with my knights badge in the top right corner as you look
at it on my shield.  But that just confused everyone. Now I use my own arms.

Rodrigo

-----Original Message-----
From: Blaise de Cormeilles [mailto:blaise at scadian.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:12 PM
To: heralds at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Squires, Achievements of Arms, and Ranks (Oh
My!)


On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 01:57:19PM -0600, Herndon, Darin wrote:
> It is however not appropriate in any period context that I can find for
> the arms of the peer to be on the belt or in canton on a shield.  To
> bear another's actual arms instead of their badge, especially in canton
> or in escutcheon, is to make a very specific claim in heraldry as
> "presuming" the others arms or by emblazon asserting a claim to those
> arms and all that goes with them.  So, while belts don't bother me, the
> use of arms in this manner makes a period claim that is absolutely not
> intended in the SCA.

This is true as far as it goes.  One late-period continental display
that I'd like to see more of used, however, is to put the arms of your
liege-lord in your arms as a *chief* (known as a "chief of allegiance").

Blaise
--
Jim Trigg, Lord High Everything Else  O-          /"\
SKA Seigneur Blaise de Cormeilles                 \ /  ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN
Silver Nautilus Pursuivant, Atlantia               X    HELP CURE HTML MAIL
Webmaster, Academy of S. Gabriel                  / \
_______________________________________________
Heralds mailing list
Heralds at ansteorra.org
http://www.ansteorra.org/mailman/listinfo/heralds