[ANSTHRLD] Re: Heralds Digest, Vol 2, Issue 26

Pafra & Scott scplc at i-55.com
Mon Jul 21 16:24:18 PDT 2003


Devices in literary fiction are like names from literary fiction:
if not enough heralds recognize the device, it's not barred
from registration.
Colm Dubh
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>    1. Re: fun with names (Brian L. Rygg or Laura E. Barbee-Rygg)
>    2. RE: Are devices in liteary fiction protected? (Herndon, Darin)
>    3. Paging Jayme (Stefen and Rhonda Hays)
>    4. Re: Conflict Check (boars)  (Tim McDaniel)
>    5. RE: Conflict Check (boars)  (Ron)
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> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:03:32 -0600
> From: "Brian L. Rygg or Laura E. Barbee-Rygg" <rygbee at montana.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] fun with names
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> Perronnelle scripsit:
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> > I'm preparing a sample gate sheet for a class at Round Table and need 10
> > fictious SCA names.  I thought it might be fun to solicit ideas here.
>
>      I can state with some certainty that "Brendan Pilgrim" is thoroughly
> fictitious.
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>
> Your honours in dutie.
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> Brendan Pilgrim
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> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:15:41 -0500
> From: "Herndon, Darin" <DHerndon at bswintl.com>
> Subject: RE: [ANSTHRLD] Are devices in liteary fiction protected?
> To: <seamus at elfsea.net>, "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,
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> Aryanhwy copied the Admin Handbook section.  Note that armory must be
> "considered sufficiently important" and after being brought to Laurel's
> attention it will get entered in the O&A.
>
> How do you know if it is important enough if it is not already in the
> O&A?  You just have to try and register it and then sit through the
> commentary.
>
> Etienne
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> From: Tom Parr [mailto:seamus at elfsea.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:39 AM
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> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Are devices in liteary fiction protected?
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> Greetings all,
>
> I may have missed this somewhere but:
>
> Are devices that are in a current book of fiction protected?
>
> thanks for the help!
>
> !Seamus!
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> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:40:45 -0500
> From: "Stefen and Rhonda Hays" <housedragonstar at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Paging Jayme
> To: <heralds at ansteorra.org>, "Joseph Percer" <jpercer at stx.rr.com>
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> Jayme,
>
> Guess what came in the mail today complete with your postmark of June 11,
2003?
>
> What do you want me to do with the check?
>
> Thanks
> Medb
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> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:27:04 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check (boars)
> To: "Heralds List,  Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
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> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Sara L Friedemann <liana at ellipsis.cx> wrote:
> > Quoth Tim McDaniel:
> > > I think).  Nebuly is WAY underused in the SCA, by the way.
> >
> > Really?  I thought nebuly was only marginally period.
>
> Anglo-Norman Armory Two shows nebuly in use from the earliest days of
> heraldry.  I just flipped it open to "bars", because it's a sizeable
> section and therefore likelier to have a range of practices.  (For
> example, if you want to research all the unusual things that could be
> done to beasts, look at "Beast - Lion".)
>
>     p. 14, Lekeburn: Argent two bars nebuly sable surmounted by a bend
>                      gules.
>
>     p. 17: Sigoyne: Or two bars nebuly sable.
>            Elchesfield: Argent, two bars nebuly sable.
>
>     p. 31: Alan Goldingham: Argent, three bars nebuly gules and a label
>                        azure.
>            Simon & Ralph Basset: Argent, three bars nebuly sable.
>            John Chaumpayne, Alan Goldingham: Argent, three bars nebuly
gules.
>            Lovell: Or, three bars nebuly gules.
>
> Mind you, the next page (32) has
>
>            Simon Basset: Azure, three bars wavy argent.
>            Ralph & Robert & John Champaign): Argent, three bars wavy
gules.
>            William Goldingham: Ermine, three waves gules.
>
> making me wonder whether nebuly was (in early days) an artistic
> variant of nebuly.  I've not researched it, though, and I suspect it
> would be somewhat easy to research.
>
> Daniel de Lincolia
> --
> Tim McDaniel (home); Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com; work is tmcd at us.ibm.com.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:59:26 -0500
> From: "Ron" <eirik at hot.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check (boars)
> To: "'Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc.'"
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> > making me wonder whether nebuly was (in early days) an
> > artistic variant of nebuly.  I've not researched it, though,
> > and I suspect it would be somewhat easy to research.
>
> Um, Daniel's been working too hard again. I believe he meant that wavy
> was a variant of nebuly.
>
> Eirik
>
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