[ANSTHRLD] devices

[Leslie Rose]

Ok I messed up.

The first one he wants the chief to be checky white and green.  (big mess up
on the typing)  with the rest of the device being white and the horseshoe
being a regular U shape.

As for the other one.  It was a red field with black saltires.  The rams
head would be large and overlap the saltires.

Sorry for the confusion.  I was a little out of it when I sent the email.

Thanks for your help.

Catarina di Foscarci






>From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
>Reply-To: heralds at ansteorra.org
>To: heralds at ansteorra.org
>Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] devices
>Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 14:46:28 -0600 (CST)
>
>On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Leslie Rose <aggileslie at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I have several clients who wish to register devices.  Here is what
> > they want.  Please email me with any conflicts or problems.
>
>If you're not 100% sure of the blazon, please give a plain English
>description also.  The best is an image on the Web that any of us
>could go see.  I'm afraid that for neither of the two proposals can I
>figure out the exact appearance.  And we really do need the *exact*
>appearance (modulo artistic details like shading on a head or eye
>position) to figure out whether it conforms to the rules or has a
>conflict, and the language of blazon reflects pretty well the details
>that we consider significant.
>
> > Argent chief, chequy and vert, a horseshoe Or
>
>"Checky" is of two tinctures.  E.g., "checky gules and argent" (checky
>red and white) is the famous background for Purina ___ Chow.
>
>Is the field white, is there a white chief (heraldic charge: stripe
>across the top), or half-and-half field, or what?  What thing is
>checky here?  Is the horseshoe with points up or down (U or inverted
>U)?
>
> > Gules a Saltire Sable, a Ram head cabossed argent
>
>What are the relative positions of the ram's head and the saltire?  I
>guess that at least one is entirely on the field.  Is the ram's head
>small and entirely on the saltire, or is it larger and partly
>overlying the saltire and spreading over its edges onto the field, or
>is it in one of the quadrants of the field formed by the X of the
>saltire?
>
>This is almost certainly an insta-boing.  By the Rules for Submission
>(under http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/regs.html), part VIII
>(Compatible Armorial Style).2 (Armorial Contrast).b (Contrast
>Requirements).i,
>
>     The field must have good contrast with every charge placed
>     directly on it and with charges placed overall.
>
>"Good contrast" is defined up in VIII.2.a as meaning, in essence,
>color versus metal.  "Metal" is white or yellow (or things
>predominantly metal).  "Color" is black (sable), red (gules), blue
>(azure), purple (purpure), and green (vert), or something
>predominantly color.  A black anything on a red field is
>"color-on-color", therefore not "good contrast", therefure cause for
>return for the rule I quoted above.
>
>Daniel de Lincolia
>--
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