[ANSTHRLD] House Porto - Household name and badge

Herndon, Darin DHerndon at bswintl.com
Thu May 29 11:07:06 PDT 2003

Miguel Sebastian da Oporto
This name was registered in July of 2000 (via Ansteorra).
The following device associated with this name was registered in July of
2000 (via Ansteorra):
Or, a continental sea panther gules within a bordure sable.

Is "da" Portuguese for the Spanish "de" or English "of/from"?

Is it possible that someone (Asterisk? Or someone who attends the
Pelican meetings in Bryn Gwlad?) could check the files on the
documentation for the locative looking ending?  If we understand how it
was documented in 2000 and passed, perhaps that will open new
alternatives for "Oporto" that do not conflict with "Porto".

Magnus is correct (for the newer heralds on the list) about the conflict
using the actual period city name.  Despite the city name being period,
and usable as a locative in someone's personal name, to say "House
<City>" for a household, directly implies that the household is the
ruling family of such a city which is a presumption that the college
cannot register.  I could not register "House York" or "House Paris" for
the same reason (as an example, I have never tried nor wanted to).

But, "da Oporto" may be a different meaning than "of the city Porto".  I
do not know and only a file check or an email from His Majesty will tell
us what was the documentation behind what he submitted.


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