[ANSTHRLD] Help finding something

Steve K. Rourke steverourke at charter.net
Wed Aug 25 14:43:53 PDT 2004

Thank you for the help and information to all. I will get with the submitter
and see what she wants to do.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kobrien at texas.net>
To: <heralds at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Help finding something

> > By any chance does anyone have a copy of the January 1999 Ansteorran
> > Gazette? I'm trying to find out the reason for a device submission for
> > Dighe na Mara. The device was originally submitted back in 2/94 but was
> > listed as "returned" in 12/98 (AG 1/99). I just need to find out if
> > there was a reason for return or if it was one of those items that just
> > fell between the cracks.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Domhnall
> Okay, here's the deal on the submissions ruled on 2/94 and 4/94
> For folks who are not aware, there was a meltdown in the Ansteorran CoH in
> early/mid '90s.  I was not in Kingdom at the time, but I'm sure other
> here know way more about it than they ever wished to know.
> Anyway, these submissions were victims of one portion of that meltdown.
> While Gwenllian verch Maredudd was Asterisk Herald (sometime in early '98,
> I remember correctly), she ran across files for the decision meetings for
> and 4/94.  From the looks of that info, it seemed like the decisions had
> ruled on, but nothing else had been done with them.  She researched each
> and found that the kingdom acceptances from 2/94 had been sent up to
> but no notifications (as far as she could tell) had been done on the
> from that meeting.  Her research also showed that nothing had been done
> any of the items from the 4/94 meeting (either acceptances or returns).
> Given that nearly 4 years had passed between these decision meetings and
> the kingdom files materialized these records up out of nowhere, it was
> that the fairest thing to do for the submitters was to return all of the
> from 4/94 along with the returns from 2/94.
> I believe it was decided to start the "free resub" time period from the
> of the Gazette (1/99) rather than the original decision meetings since the
> submitters were never notified.
> I think there were a couple of cases where the submitters were proactive,
> when Kingdom could not find the missing records, did resubmissions in the
> to late 90s.
> I'm not sure there were reasons for returns noted in the files for these
> items.  If so, Medb may be able to check the file and see if there was a
> reason for return for your submitter.
> Regardless, the most helpful thing for the submitter at this point would
be to
> post what he wants to this list and let folks here check it against
> rules and registrations.
> Mari
> (who was deputy to Asterisk when she cleaned out this mess)
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