[ANSTHRLD] HELP!! I think I'm turning Japanese!

[kobrien at texas.net]

One caveat about Baron Edward's page is that not all combinations of Kanji 
can be assembled to make a valid name element (nanori or yobina or 
surname).  As I recall, that was not clear the last time I looked at this 
article.  (If he's updated the article since then, maybe this problem has 
been resolved.)  More that once I've encountered submitters who have built a 
nanori (given name) from Kanji on this article and become attached to their 
name only to find out that it is not plausible in period and, so, was not 
registerable.

I guess what I'm saying is that Baron Edward's article is good, but it's 
a "use with care" source.  Checking against Solveig's book (like Yoshinobu 
did), or even searching on the 'net to see if you can find a historical 
person with that name is a good idea.

Mari



Quoting Yoshinobu <yoshinobu at airmail.net>:

> The resource I used for mine was Baron Edward of Effingham's webpage:
> http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/miscellany.html
> 
> His section on japanese names is quite informative and includes contruction
> 
> and background.
> 
> Using just his page, i was able to get a name that worked well, and is 
> currently in progress after being submitted at AAA.
> 
> Of course, I then checked against Solvieg's book.
> 
> If I can help in anyway, please let me know
> 
> In Service to Ansteorra,
> Odawara Taro Yoshinobu
> Greywood
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <kobrien at texas.net>
> To: <heralds at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] HELP!! I think I'm turning Japanese!
> 
> 
> >> You can start with
> >> http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/otherasian.shtml#japanese
> >> but I would end with Solvieg's Name Construction in Mediaeval Japan.
> >
> > Solveig actually has a basic article out on this page.  It's at:
> >
> > http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/solveig/nanori/
> >
> > Under "K" she lists <Kagemasa> in this article.
> >
> >
> > The name your submitter wants, <Kamakura Kagemasa> seems to best fit the
> > standard Japanese construction of:
> >
> >     [family name] [nanori]
> >
> > (A nanori is a type of given name.  See Solveig's article or her book
> for
> > more info.)
> >
> > So, Solveig's article doc's <Kagemasa> as a nanori.  Now all that's
> needed
> > is support for <Kamakura> as a family name.
> >
> > I have Solveig's book, but it's at home.  If we can doc the name from 
> > that,
> > you don't require photocopies since it's on the "No Photocopy" list.
> >
> > If anyone does enough name consulting to hit Japanese names on a regular
> > basis, I can't recommend enough that you get a copy of Solveig's book 
> > _Name
> > Construction in Mediaeval Japan_, cited by Magnus above.  It's available
> 
> > via
> > Potboiler Press (Box 30171, Columbia, MO 65205).  I have the email
> address
> > for contacting Potboiler Press and can look it up if anyone needs it. 
> The
> > current edition is the 6th edition of her book and I'm finding it much
> > easier to use than the older 2nd edition, which I purchased several
> years
> > ago.  It also has bunches of more names.
> >
> > Mari
> >
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